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INFORMATION VINE * The Incredible History of Stan Lee *.
The Incredible History of Stan Lee
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Stan Lee will forever be known as one of the best comic book writers in the world. However, it didn't start that way, Stan Lee had to start from the bottom and work his way up. From running errands to having his own company, find out the story of how Stan Lee became one of the most recognizable names on the planet. You may even find some interesting facts you never knew about Stan Lee.
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Stanley Martin Lieber was born in New York City in 1922
[size=18]Stan Lee was born as Stanley Martin Lieber on December 28, 1922. His parents immigrated to America and settled in NYC. Stan Lee has one younger brother named Larry, who helped with some of Stan Lee’s future creations.
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Stan Lee was an American comic book creator, famously known for his work with Marvel Comics. He created characters that are staples to American pop culture. The characters were so popular that they would grow from comics into an epic movie franchise.
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Books by Mark Twain were an escape for young Stan Lee
[size=18]The Great Depression was a burden on Stan Lee’s father, who owned a tailoring shop. Financial instability and debts made life harder for the family in their small one-bedroom apartment. As a child, Stan Lee lost himself in books and heroes.
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A few of his favorites included Mark Twain, H.G. Wells, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and Jules Verne. Later in life, he gave his mother credit for being the main booster of his confidence as a child.
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Stan Lee wrote obituaries for a news service in New York
[size=18]At the age of 16, teenage Stan Lee graduated from DeWitt Clinton High School located in the Bronx. With the general economic hardship, it was hard finding a job during the time, so he took a series of odd jobs.
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He worked as an office boy, wrote press releases for the National Tuberculosis Center, and worked for a news service writing an obituary. He would quit the obituary writing gig, thinking the job could have a negative impact on his mood.
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Stan Lee begins his journey in publishing with an odd coincidence
[size=18]During the late 1930s, a job would finally open up for Stan Lee. He would spot an ad in the newspaper about a job at a publishing company that caught his interest. When he got the job, he assumed that he was the only person who applied.
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Coincidentally, his uncle, Robbie Solomon, mentioned to him earlier that the publishing company he worked for needed a new employee. The role was a gofer (a type of assistant) position in a company that was at the McGraw-Hill Building.
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Stan Lee was paid $8 per week when he worked as a gofer
[size=18]It’s not confirmed if the two companies were really the same, but it turned out that Stan Lee had a family connection to the publishing company he would spend decades working with. His Uncle Robbie got him in contact with Joe Simon, the man who could hire Stan Lee.
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The publishing company was Timely Comics, and Joe Simon would co-create Captain America with Jack Kirby. Stan Lee worked at the company as a gofer for $8 per week in 1939.
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Stan Lee asked Timely Comics for a promotion from his gofer role
[size=18]At Timely Comics, duties such as coffee runs, refilling ink jars, and proofreading went to Stan Lee. His most active task on the job would be getting the staff lunch. It was a small start, but Stan Lee carried out his duties as the job required.
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Stan Lee became bored with his tasks and brought up the idea of a promotion to his boss. To satisfy Stan Lee, for the time being, Timely Comics worked out a plan where Stan Lee could direct his writing skills.
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Timely Comics needed to find Stan Lee something to do before the staff went crazy
[size=18]Stan Lee would hang around Timely Comics doing miscellaneous activities to fill his time. The tasks they assigned to him were often mundane and short-lived, so Stan Lee had a lot of downtime. He stayed around to soak up knowledge, and he would tag along with Joe Simon and Jack Kirby when they went bowling or had lunch.
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Stan Lee had so much downtime that he would sit in a corner of the art department and play the ocarina. The instrument sometimes drove the staff nuts, so Timely Comics was more than happy to find the gofer something more to do.
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Stan Lee makes his comic debut by writing the text filler
[size=18]In 1941, Joe Simon and Jack Kirby created Captain America. The company often worked with outside talent for their publishing. Art and scripts were done by a freelancer, or the comic shop Funnies, Inc. they worked with. Timely Comics decided to task Stan Lee with writing the text filler at the back of the comics.
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Postal Service required subscriptions to have at least two pages of the actual text. This is how Stan Lee got his comic writing debut with “Captain America Foils the Traitor's Revenge” on August 1, 1941.
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Stan Lee serves his country in WWII
[size=18]Joe Simon and Jack Kirby would leave Timely Comics. Stan Lee became an interim editor for Timely Comics. Around this time, the young talent Stan Lee also joined the WPA Federal Theater Project. The project was funded by the government to secure jobs for people in the theater industry during the Great Depression.
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He didn’t get to indulge in his role for too long. Stan Lee would be enlisted to serve the country as the U.S. fought in WWII. He would be in the Signal Corps up until 1945, then, Stan Lee would return.
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The army code name for Stan Lee was ‘playwright’
[size=18]While in the armed forces from 1942 to 1945, Stan Lee still leaned on his natural inclinations. He wrote manuals, training films, and slogans for the army. Most of the jobs he performed were either administrative or technical jobs.
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The army did give Stan Lee some time to explore opportunities, like making cartoons for the army magazines around that era. He became known for his creative talent. He was designated to be classified in the military as ‘playwright’.
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Upon returning from the military, Stan Lee experimented with different genres of content
[size=18]Once Stan Lee returned to America, he found that Timely Comics changed their name to Atlas Comics. He rejoined the company ready to share new stories with audiences. Stan Lee inevitably gained a wider set of experiences while serving the country.
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He wanted to experiment with different genres that could expand the narrative of the characters he created. Stan Lee started to dabble in writing romance, sci-fi, horror, and comedy genres. His new goal would develop into a shining aspect of his impact on culture.
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Atlas Company was in danger of bankruptcy
[size=18]Dan DeCarlo Lee and Stan Lee would take over a comic strip called “My Friend Irma” that ran from 1950 to 1955. The comics were based on a popular radio show of that time starring Marie Wilson.
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While this comic strip was going on, Atlas was in financial trouble. The company would go bankrupt in 1957 and need a solution to get out of a difficult situation. This was the moment where Stan Lee would officially start to shine.
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Stan Lee and Jack Kirby are assigned to make a superhero team
[size=18]During the late 1950s, Atlas also had tiered competition with DC comics. In fact, DC comics was performing better than Atlas Comics at that time. The Justice League would be released by DC comics, gaining more popularity for the company.
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In response, the owner of Atlas Comics requested for Stan Lee to create a new superhero team to even out the competition. Stan Lee would collaborate with Jack Kirby on this new project to create a superhero team America had not seen before.
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In 1961, the Fantastic Four were created
[size=18]In 1961, Atlas Comics would rebrand the company to the name Marvel Comics and premiere the new superhero team in “Fantastic Four.” The first thing to stand out about these characters was their varying backgrounds.
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The characters were older, younger, and married; filling different roles that made the characters appear more like a family. Fantastic Four characters were not perfect but faced moral and social issues as regular people who happen to have super abilities. Making the characters more relatable to the public created great success for Marvel Comics.
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Fans get to know Stan Lee through “Stan's Soapbox”
[size=18]In 1965, Marvel had a reader’s Bullpen Bulletins to keep dedicated fans updated. Stan Lee wrote a monthly column answering questions and talking about projects with fans. He also gave shout outs to other artists that worked on the stories.
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The interaction helped develop a loyal bond between the two and became a place of familiarity for both Stan Lee and the fans. He called his column “Stan's Soapbox”, which he would write from December 1965 to January 1982.
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The Hulk was gray before being green
[size=18]In 1962, Bruce Banner would be introduced to America in “The Incredible Hulk.” This is another character Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created together, and not the last. The main character was a closer relation to the classic tale of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Louis Stevenson.
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Originally, The Hulk was illustrated with gray skin. The first issue of the comic was said to have a gray color. Printers at Marvel Comic were not dependable for keeping a consistent gray color. In issue #2, the comic printed The Hulk with green skin.
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The X-men and the Avengers are created in 1963
[size=18]Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created two new superhero teams in 1963. One was the “X-men,” which showcased a group of human mutants supporting each other while being scrutinized by “normal” humans. The main characters were under the mentorship of Professor X and Magneto.
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The other team was “The Avengers,” which was a combination of a superhero collective crossover between comics. Originally, the featured members included Iron Man, the Wasp, the Hulk, Thor, and Ant-Man.
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Peter Parker was like most American teens trying to figure life out
[size=18]One day Stan Lee got an idea for a superhero as he watched a spider climb up a doorpost. He would write a comic for a hero with spider-like abilities. Steve Ditko helped create Peter Parker, one of Stan Lee’s favorite characters.
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Stan Lee wanted Peter Parker to be relatable to his adolescent audience. The triumphs and struggles of Peter Parker would be the same as most teens in America, besides using his powers for crime-fighting. Peter Parker first made an appearance in Amazing Fantasy #15 and would premiere alone in 1963.
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Spider-Man inspires a change in policy for the Comics Code Authority (CCA)
[size=18]In 1971, the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare sent a request to Stan Lee asking him to place an anti-drug message in one of his storylines. He thought of putting the message in Spider-Man where Peter’s best friend Harry would abuse pills after a bad break up.
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The Comics Code Authority (CCA) that regulated content felt this idea was not good to pursue. Stan Lee convinced Martin Goodman to publish the story. This story was received so well that the CCA threw away their code about the negative depiction of drugs, which allowed more comics to talk about meaningful topics.
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Stan Lee mass produces creative works by using the Marvel Method
[size=18]In the 60s, Stan Lee created comics relatively quickly, but it was a method used by the company that made this possible. Inside Marvel Comics they use a production system referred to as the Marvel Method. Stan Lee would give a loose outline to artists in the company, so they could all get to work.
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Artists in the company would draw the loose outline, then Stan Lee went in to add captions to the story. Some people saw this way of using the artists for such regular production as exploration, but many times Stan Lee credited much of the behind-the-scenes teams on his comics.
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Stan Lee tackles television with The Incredible Hulk TV show and an animated series for Spider-Man
[size=18]During the 1970s, Stan Lee took a step back from comics to try other projects. He took characters, like The Hulk and Spider-Man, to the small screen. He arranged for The Incredible Hulk TV show and an animated series for Spider-Man.
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It was around this time that Stan Lee began to work on possibly making X-men into a movie. The idea was scrapped for the time being. Surprisingly, that production of X-men had Danny DeVito cast as Wolverine.
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The X-Men storyline touched on social issues inspired by the Civil Rights era
[size=18]The comics and characters Stan Lee made often talked about real-life issues in society, like the Cold War. One of the most notable social issues touched on in Marvel Comics is the Civil Rights movement during the 1960s.
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Stan Lee’s X-men was especially tied to themes of that era that still can be learning points in modern society. Many people would connect with the story of sympathy and pain. Later on, X-men would also be connected to depicting stories that touched on the LGBTQ community.
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Professor X and Magneto are modeled after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X
[size=18]The storyline in X-men centered on a group of people being treated poorly for a part of their identity that cannot be chosen. Rather than color, the plot uses mutants and “normal” people. The two mentors Professor X and Magneto are a reflection of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X respectively.
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Professor X took a more peaceful approach to improve the relationship between “normal” people and mutants. Magneto took a more aggressive outlook on what to do to help mutants in society.
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Stan Lee became the president of the company but decided to step down
[size=18]There was a time where Stan Lee worked as the president of Marvel Studios. His new role came with responsibilities that were more technical and required a different skill set. The biggest problem was that the new role created too much distance between Stan Lee and the creation of the comics.
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After some time as the president, Stan Lee stepped down to get back to the creative portion of the company. That is where he felt the most comfortable, and where he had the most interest.
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Stan Lee Media has a two-year run
[size=18]Stan Lee worked with Peter F. Paul to create the Stan Lee Media studio for the creation, production, and marketing of superheroes. The company did well but was short-lived. Originally, the company was established in Boulder, OH in 1998.
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After legal implications, including manipulation, the company was shut down. Stan Lee was not charged as he was not involved in the happenings that caused the company to be shut down in 2000.
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DC Comics works with Stan Lee to create an alternate version of the company’s classic characters
[size=18]DC Comics and Stan Lee worked together for the first time in the 2000s. Stan Lee was brought in to work on a series where he re-imagined the stories of classic DC superheroes. This series would be called “Just Imagine,” featuring characters like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman.
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The comic book line consisted of thirteen issues that ran from September 2001 to September 2002. The artists of the project include John Buscema, Joe Kubert, and Jim Lee.
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Stan Lee created POW! (Purveyors of Wonder) Entertainment in 2001
[size=18]In 2001, the POW! (Purveyors of Wonder) Entertainment was created by Stan Lee, Gill Champion, and Arthur Lieberman. The company set out to handle media production to expand the reach of the stories and characters created by Stan Lee.
[Photo Courtesy: Image by Andrew Martin from Pixabay ]
He already had the success and recognition but having his own company would include different benefits. The company even had the ability to stretch into the video game industry. Around this time, Stan Lee also chose to launch Stan Lee's Sunday Comics.
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Stan Lee loved doing a great cameo
[size=18]A favorite trend of Stan Lee was to do a cameo in his films. He’d often pop up randomly, in a miscellaneous role, putting himself in the universe of his favorite characters. It started with a cameo in the 2002 Spider-Man movie starring Tobey Maguire. Funny enough, one of his cameos was a recreation of a cameo he put in an earlier comic book.
[Photo Courtesy: Marvel Entertainment / YouTube ]
Stan Lee’s cameo in Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) had a scene of him and Jack Kirby crashing a wedding, which is identical to the wedding scene in Fantastic Four Annual Volume 1 #3.
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“Stan Lee Meets...” a few of his characters in comic life
[size=18]Stan Lee and Marvel were collaborators for decades, which speaks to how well their partnership works. In celebration of 65 years together, Marvel published a comic dedicated to Stan Lee.
[Photo Courtesy: Marvel Entertainment / YouTube ]
The 2006 project, called “Stan Lee Meets...”, featured Stan Lee interacting with his favorite characters. The artwork plopped him right into the scenes as the main focus as he went around with characters like Spider-Man, Doctor Doom, the Thing, the Silver Surfer, and Doctor Strange.
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Stan Lee published his autobiography on November 3, 2015
[size=18]On November 3, 2015, Stan Lee published an autobiography named Amazing Fantastic Incredible: A Marvelous Memoir. The book was written by Stan Lee and Peter David, with Colleen Doran. As an autobiography, the book dives into Stan Lee’s journey to being one of the major influences of pop culture.
[Photo Courtesy: Amazing Fantastic Incredible: A Marvelous Memoir / amazon ]
In Marvel fashion, the book is structured like a comic book. This book is one out of few literary works that take a look into the life of Stan Lee and his impact through art, storytelling, and comics.
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Stan Lee had another family connection to Timely Comics
[size=18]Stan Lee’s uncle, Robbie Solomon, helped him get hired by Marvel when the company was still called Timely Comics. The world was smaller than Stan Lee’s uncle working at the company.
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The owner of the publishing company, Martin Goodman, was the husband of Stan Lee’s cousin. That means Stan Lee had connections inside the publishing company, which probably helped in convincing Joe Simon in letting the young Stan Lee into the publishing company.
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In 2017, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were named Disney Legends
[size=18]Stan Lee’s work earned him many awards throughout his career. In 1974, Stan Lee was honored with the Inkpot Award. In 1994, he became part of the Eisner Award Hall of Fame.
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In 1995, he was inducted into the Jack Kirby Hall of Fame. In 2002, he would be given the Saturn Life Career Award. Stan Lee would receive an award with Jack Kirby in 2017 when the pair would be named Disney Legends.
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October 2nd is “Stan Lee Day”
[size=18]Honors given to Stan Lee don’t stop at awards. People found other creative ways, much like the “Stan Lee Meets..” series, to celebrate the comic creator. In 2007, Marvel built an action figure of Stan Lee that used one of the older action figure molds.
[Photo Courtesy: Image by Mazhar Malik from Pixabay]
In 2009, October 2nd became “Stan Lee Day” in Los Angeles County and the Californian city Long Beach. In 2011, Stan Lee was honored with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. In light of his long career, he made jokes about being the 2,428th person to have the honor.
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The Simpsons love Stan Lee
[size=18]Stan Lee made cameos in the works of other creatives as well. Matt Groening, the creator of The Simpsons, is particularly fond of the comic creator. Stan Lee made cameos in three episodes, including 'I Am Furious (Yellow)', (2002), 'Married to the Blob' (2014), and 'Caper Chase' (2017).
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Despite not being a cameo, another famous reference to Stan Lee occurs in The Simpsons Movie (2007). Homer Simpson is playing around with a pig when he sings a comical reference to the Spider-Man theme song: “Spider-Pig, Spider-Pig. Does whatever... a Spider-Pig does.”
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Marvel’s Stan Lee has a rap battle with the Muppets’ Jim Henson
[size=18]The Internet series “Epic Rap Battles of History” focused on iconic figures in history having epic rap battles, as the name suggests. In 2015, the episode was Stan Lee versus the Muppet creator Jim Henson.
[Photo Courtesy: ERB / Youtube]
The battle was a close call, but both contenders were put down when Walt Disney came through to wrap things up. Ironically, the relationship between the three is hilarious. At the time of the episode, Walt Disney owned rights for Marvel and the Muppets. To date there have only been 82 episodes of epic rap battles of history, meaning only around 164 people have been honored to be on this epic Youtube channel. This puts Stan in company with historic figures like presidents, amazing directors, and the world's billionaires.
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Stan Lee sued Marvel in 2005
[size=18]Similar to other relationships, the partnership between Marvel and Stan Lee was not always smooth. Stan Lee brought up the issue of not receiving royalties for the adaptations of Classic Marvel characters for film production.
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Stan Lee understandably questioned how he would not be one of the people earning royalties. Stan Lee and Marvel Comics were able to reach a settlement of $10 million on April 28, 2005.
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Stan Lee creates comical relief for politics during the 2008 elections
[size=18]Stan Lee spent a lot of time filling the comic books with relatable stories, and a few staple life lessons. The art of comic books allowed him to reflect these themes to American society. People could see themselves in these comics, and discussions around the subjects became easier in some cases.
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In 2008, Stan Lee would tackle social issues in the form of comical relief. As a response to the elections of that year, he created “Stan Lee Presents Election Daze: What Are They Really Saying?”
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President Barack Obama lives a Marvel fan’s dream
[size=18]President Barack Obama is a fan of Marvel, particularly Spider-Man. Stan Lee presented a special one-shot that featured the president. This was the backup feature in The Amazing Spider-Man #583. The title was “Spidey Meets the President” and came out one week before President Obama’s inauguration in January 2009.
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Stan Lee had the one-shot written by Zeb Wells with the artwork drawn by Todd Nauck and Frank D'Armata. The cover consists of a closeup of a comic illustrated President Obama giving a thumbs-up as Spider-Man asks if he can be on the dollar bill.
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Stan Lee worked on many side projects later in his career, including making mascots for the NHL
[size=18]Stan Lee created mascots for the National Hockey League in 2010 under a partnership with Guardian Media Entertainment. Stan Lee made a 30-member superhero-squad where each NHL Franchise had a mascot.
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Stan Lee also started plans for writing a live-action rock opera-style titled “The Yin and Yang Battle of Tao''. The project was unfinished when he passed. Other unfinished Stan Lee projects include The Monster Maker, Legion of 5, Pandas vs Aliens, and The Disney Projects.
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Stan Lee reviews a top honor for creatives by the U.S. Government
[size=18]In 2008, Stan Lee was awarded the American National Medal of the Arts from George W. Bush. The medal was first awarded to civilians in 1985. This award is one of the top recognitions someone can gain for their contributions to the arts.
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Stan Lee’s dedication to shaping and moving American pop culture was able to earn him the honor of receiving these awards. He would continue to contribute to the arts as he always had.
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Stan Lee works on anime projects
[size=18]Stan Lee decided to try working in anime for a while. He collaborated with Japanese manga artist Hiroyuki Takei, who created Shaman King. Their project was called Karakuridoji Ultimo (Mechanical Robot: Ultimo).
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The 12-volume series was originally published on April 28, 2008, and ran from March 2009 to October 2015. Around the same time, Stan Lee also worked on Tamon Ohta's Heroman, which came out on April 1, 2010.
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Stan Lee was in the army with Dr. Seuss
[size=18]While in the army, Stan Lee was not the only creative talent in the military personnel. Around that time, even Hollywood’s hottest stars needed to participate in the war. Stan Lee was moved to the Training Film Division in Queens at one point in his army years.
[Photo Courtesy: Ted Geisel (Dr. Seuss) half-length portrait / Library Of Congress]
He would be paired up with a team of eight men, some of whom were gathered there for their spectacular talent. The men included cartoonist Charles Addams, director Frank Capra, Pulitzer Prize-winning author William Saroyan, and Theodor Geisel (Dr. Seuss).
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Stan Lee started his YouTube channel in 2012
[size=18]Stan Lee started a YouTube channel in 2012. The channel was called Stan Lee's World of Heroes. He acted as a host, showing off the contents of Comic-con and programs he created. Comic-con was a staple in Stan Lee’s life.
[Photo Courtesy: Stan Lee / Youtube ]
Thousands of people attend Comic-Cons around the world, and many come dressed as their favorite Marvel characters. The events are also a great chance for fans to attend panels where they can talk to their favorite creators and performers.
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Stan Lee wrote the three-part “Legacy” novel
[size=18]Beyond comic books, Stan Lee also helped to write novels. Stuart Moore and Stan Lee created the book series Zodiac, which included three books. The plot centers on a Chinese-American teenager who is unexpectedly tossed into a world of action and magical powers.
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The three titles included, Convergence, The Zodiac Legacy: The Dragon's Return, and The Zodiac Legacy: Balance of Power. The first book in the series was originally published in 1984.
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Spider-Man and Mary Jane got married in 1987
[size=18]Stan Lee held a deep affection for the comics he created. He had a real bond with the characters. In 1987, Spider-Man and Mary Jane get married in the storyline.
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As a publicity event, Marvel did hold an actual wedding for the two characters at Shea Stadium in New York. Two actors were hired to help bring the visuals to life. Stan Lee made a cameo by officiating the wedding between Spider-Man and Mary Jane.
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Cameo appearances were actually part of Stan Lee’s contract
[size=18]Cameos started off as a fun trend for Stan Lee. He began placing himself in the stories as early as his comic book days before film. To keep the consistency, one of his contracts actually mentioned that he needed to do the cameos for the films.
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The contract states that Stan Lee is required to appear in any film that is based on his characters. His cameos were for fun and for business. Despite the cameos being a clause in Stan Lee’s contacts, he still got paid every time.
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Stan Lee appreciates good teamwork
[size=18]Though the Marvel Method was seen as controversial for some, Stan Lee clarified that the point behind the method was collaboration. Stan Lee said this while describing the approach: “All of my life in comics I have worked with artists, so I’ve collaborated with them. I would write down the original story, they would draw it and then I would edit it and do the art direction. So, everything I’ve done has always been a collaboration.”
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Similar to the Avengers coming altogether, Stan Lee simply appreciates good teamwork.
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Stan Lee decided to make his creative name his legal name
[size=18]Stanley Martin Lieber first used his pseudonym when signing off on the text-fillers for Captain America. It was a chance to present himself in a new way as an artist.
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All of his professional life had been done under the name “Stan Lee,” and he liked the name. Later on in life, Stanley Martin Lieber did have his legal name officially changed to Stan Lee. A name everyone already grew to know.
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Stan Lee passed away on November 12, 2018
[size=18]In 2012, Stan Lee underwent surgery for a pacemaker. As he was getting older, he needed to be more cautious about his health. There was fear that something happened to the comic creator, but he joked about his good health.
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A few years later, Stan Lee would pass, leaving a grand legacy of storytelling and adventure. Stan Lee died on November 12, 2018, at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, California. The comic hero was 95 years old.
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Stan Lee created a reflection of the world
[size=18]Characters that connected with the problem of the viewer forever changed how people imagine what it means to be a true hero. Sharing the struggles and triumph of everyday life, with a twist of fantasy, gave Marvel a special place in the hearts of American pop culture.
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In his own words, Stan Lee described what his creations were: “Marvel has always been and always will be a reflection of the world right outside our window.”[/size]
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*JASON HALSTEAD* BOOK LIST
NY Times Bestseller At Last!
[size=11]November 20, 2014Jason Halstead1 comment
Yesterday the bundle, A Kiss of Christmas Magic, was listed on the NY Times bestseller list at spot #11. It pegged #31 on the USA Today bestseller list. For those that follow this blog, my newsletter, or website / Facebook page, you might remember the second longest story in that bundle is by Dawn Michelle. Dawn Michelle happens to be the name my wife and I write under (and it’s also her name, if you want to get technical). So, in a roundabout way, that means after five years of being a professional writer, I’m finally a NY Times bestselling author. Queue up the confetti, sirens, parade, and line of celebratory cocktails.
Then I checked my daily sales this morning. On the same day I sold 19 books and Dawn Michelle sold 4. How’s that for taking the wind out of my sails? Or sales…whichever spelling you prefer (see what I did there?)
I have to say that, hands down, the group of writers I worked with where fun, amazing, and professional. Well, a few times we might not have been professional, but it was in a fun and energizing sort of way. The point is, every one of them deserves it, and every one of them is a damn fine writer on their own merits.
What the process also told me is that being a great writer isn’t nearly enough. I always believed that if you write a good book, and write enough of them, the volume and quality of work will speak for itself. The readers and sales will come. Life will be good. After nearly writing 70 books and receiving a lot of outstanding reviews and praise, I’m here to say that enough isn’t enough.
To hit the list we needed the combined might of a whole lot of fan bases, first and foremost. Some of the authors have dedicated fans in numbers that left me staggering. I learned a LOT in the process, including the sheer masses of paranormal romance readers that are out there. I mean…wow! There’s a lot.
But that wasn’t enough, we needed more. That more came in the form of literally thousands of dollars spent in advertising. I can’t begin to grasp where all of it went, but there was a lot of ads out there getting the word out. That was a huge contributer. It bumped us up to our peak of #15 on the Amazon bestselling chart (all paid books).
So this is me being happy and also warning fledgling writers out there. Sure, there will always be exceptions to the rule that skyrocket to the top for no reason other than right time, right place, right luck. The over 99.9999% of us have to bust our asses. It’s a business and there’s no such thing as fair play. Write your asses off and understand it doesn’t end there. There’s a lot more to it than that. And if you’re like me without a budget for such extras, that means figuring it out and finding the time to do it yourself.
Good luck my friends – now that I’ve hit the NY Times list my plans are… write another book.
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Snuggling Up With a Naughty Nook to Read
[size]November 11, 2014Jason HalsteadLeave a comment
I was stricken by some inspiration last night to do some data mining. It happens every now and then, I’m a numbers and stats junkie. Hey, admitting I have a problem is the first step to overcoming it, right?
So anyhow, I focused on my 3rd quarter Smashwords results. I’ve been experimenting with Kindle Unlimited on Amazon and trying to figure out the best way to reach the most people. Sales have taken an epic leap into a giant brown and smelly sinkhole, so every person reached is bigger than ever.
What I found was very interesting, to say the least. Over the July – September period, I made roughly $800 on iTunes. Whether that’s good or bad is irrelevant for this discussion. Why? Because Dawn Michelle, my wife, made $80 on iTunes in the same period. My theory behind that is iTunes customers prefer science fiction and fantasy over paranormal romance.
The next significant sales figures came from Barnes and Noble. For Jason Halstead (that’s me, in case you’re just joining), I had $0 sales at B&N via Smashwords. Not surprising, almost all of my B&N titles go directly through B&N. They work out to approximately $10 – $30 a month in royalties. Nothing to get excited about. Dawn Michelle, on the other hand, rocked well over $400 on B&N sales for that 3 month period!
There’s really only one conclusion I can draw from this data – Nook readers like smut! Okay, maybe that’s too rough. They like romance. Paranormal romance. With some spice. In other words…furry porn. (sorry, I couldn’t resist).
So what does this mean for me? Well, I’ve moved some of my titles over to strictly being on Amazon and taking part in KDP Select / KU to allow borrowing. It’s saved my bacon so far this month too. I haven’t seen sales this low in 3 years and I don’t know what the hell is going on, but KU borrows are making up for the lackluster sales by averaging 5 – 10 borrows a day. My wife’s books, on the other hand, have done better by being available on multiple venues (especially those naughty nook owners – god bless you folks!), so we’re going to make sure her new series stays as available as possible.
Her new series? It’s paranormal romance again – and the beta readers are saying it’s even better than the Claimed by the Beast series. It picks up after her story in A Kiss of Christmas Magic ($.99 bundle of over 1200 pages written by 20 different authors – it’s available as of today). And it continues the original Claimed by the Beast series by telling Beth’s story after the fur settles. Oh, and this time, instead of shifters, the focus is vampires.
I know, I know, a vampire romance…sigh. But she’s made good on her promise that there will be no sparkling.
Crap, the new series is called Blood Kissed, and the first book (First Kiss) is available for pre-order. Book 2 is called Forever Kiss and is in the editing stages now.
As for me? Book 2 in my Serpent’s War series, I’m shooting to have it out sometime in the Christmas – early January time frame. Even though sales have been abysmal for book 1, it’s a great story and I have to write it. And, hopefully, more people will get into it as time passes.
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Reviewing Reviews
[size]November 5, 2014Jason HalsteadLeave a comment
For those in the reviewing, blogging, or writing business the name Kathleen Hale has achieved a special kind of infamy lately. This is not where I weigh in on her, her actions, or her antagonist. Yes, I read about the antics and I can say that, as a writer, there’s nothing more infuriating than a bad review without substance or justification. Some people are dicks, plain and simple, and get off on making other people miserable. Yet if nobody ever posted their thoughts when something failed to blow their skirt up, how would I find opinions on products I’m interested in buying?
Set the buying aside, how about producing? I write books, and without feedback I have only my editor and my personal opinion on how my finished product turns out. Every book is a learning experience in how to get better at what I do, from grammar to content to writing style. My editors, beta readers, and fans are invaluable to me. I love hearing what worked and what didn’t. And if that means reading about it in a review, then that’s what I’ll do. Even a bad review. As Rocky Balboa said, “It ain’t about how hard you can hit, it’s about how hard you can be hit and keep going.”
That’s life, my friends. And a minor jab I took yesterday was from a great blogger / reviewer by the name of Angus Day. He read Voidhawk, my first published novel. I cringe whenever somebody tells me they read it – that was written five or six years ago and I’ve improved so much since then! But people continue to love it. In fact, I had another email a few days ago from a man who read Voidhawk and stated that based on that book alone he would buy and read anything with my name on it. How cool is that?
But back to Angus. His review was positive. 3 out of 5 stars, and I believe he stated the middle of the road rating came from typos and grammatical problems in the book. Since he reached out to me directly in a message I was happy to talk to him about it and learn more about his concerns. That’s the kind of feedback that I strive for. Something to make me better. I address many of the issues raised and re-submitted Voidhawk to Amazon last night with the corrections. That’s the awesome thing about the age of the ebook – I can turn things around that fast.
So thank you, Angus, both for your kind words and for your critique. It was well deserved. As for my readers or potential readers, go try out Voidhawk, it’s free on Amazon and in spite of my cringing I will say that every time I revisit that first novel I’m caught up in just how entertaining it is. And it’s got six sequels, with a seventh burning away in the back of my head and waiting in line to be turned into a living thing.
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Voidhawk, by Jason Halstead
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The Serpent and The Girl
[size=11]October 23, 2014Jason HalsteadLeave a comment
I was wracking my brain for a catchy blog title and decided to go with something that sounded rather biblical. And taboo / risqué / naughty. I admit, that’s how I roll. I’m one of those guys that often says the things that other people think but are afraid to talk about. I figure if I scare a few people off the voices in my head will still talk to me.
Enough rambling! What the heck am I talking about? Well it’s a new book. Servant of the Serpent, a new fantasy novel set in my world of Kroth. It happens to be book one of a new series I’m working on (Serpent’s War). I would have called it the Serpentwar series, but another far more renowned author than I (Raymond Feist) already has a series by that name. He wrote some darn fine books too, I have to admit.
But this isn’t about him, this is about something new and never-before-read! Servant of the Serpent takes place in the southern lands. More southern than even Shazamir, for long time readers. New lands are explored and new enemies are encountered. Of course the book ties in to old enemies (and friends) as well. There’s a connection and an overall sweeping plot behind the scenes here, after all.
Servant of the Serpent marks the eight book in the world of Kroth (nine, if you count the visit from the Voidhawk’s crew in Voidhawk: Broken Shards). There’s plenty more to come with new adventure, excitement, and the occasional maiden being eaten by a dragon.
Here’s the blurb, cover, and a link to get it on Amazon. It may be available elsewhere soon too, I’m evaluating my distribution channels and trying to pick what works the best.
Allie was meant for something more.
The world of Kroth is full of amazing people. Men and women that did miraculous deeds. Kings and queens and knights and wizards. Allie wanted to meet some of them. She wanted to learn what it was like to make a difference and to escape the hot and dusty life on the edge of the desert.
Yet dark forces are moving in the shadows and trying to reclaim what was lost. A secret prophecy guides them on their quest for blood and fire. The path of the scaled splisskin people cross with Allie’s, proving that the cost of her dreams might be more than she can bear.
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National WGT Enquirer - April edition 2011
WGT FORUM LINK National WGT Enquirer - April edition |   | andyson 6,415 Posts | Wed, Apr 6 2011 5:12 PM |
- Just picked this up at the supermarket check out line....
YankeeJim
25,827 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 5:31 PM
Beyond epic..............
LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 6:29 PM
Its lovely and all,but how come you always ask my Aunt Emily to do the guest interviews?The trouble is,she only can speak in such ways that understanding be had by all,and surely to goodness that cannot be what our Enquirer is all about,unless to my dismay,I am much mistooken?
Also,I am with the lefties just like in the magazine.In fact,I would give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
LAMBERT! do you actually NEED two arms?I have a plan...
Lizzielovinglylooksforwardtoeachnewedition xx
oneputtdavid
1,337 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 6:35 PM
Andy what the bleep's the matter with you? Obummer gets a hold of this edition, Gvtmt take over of WGT, wins 2012 by a land slide.
You are hearby given a gag order from printing any more Gold Star articles.
gsoup
2,929 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 6:37 PM
Andyson, i have waited for this for 6 days.
well worth it
wish i had the skills
ty-G
MioKontic
4,159 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 6:39 PM
Lizzie and I were saying not 3 hours ago at Bethpage "The new Enquirer hasn't come out yet". And as if by magic, a Strange Magic, Voila! (Did you see what I did there?? Strange and Magic?? See it now? Very clever!)
Anyway, it's awesome Andy. The interview with Emily was particualrly, shall we say, charming. And the explanation of VEM - couldn't have put it more succinctly myself. No, honestly, I couldn't have done it myself.
Just one problem, someone's nicked page 7 from my copy. Come to think of it, pages 2 thru 6 aren't there either, or anything after page 7 if it existed. I bet it's those rotten Cheezo's again! Am I allowed to say that? Yes? No? Is it against T's & C's? Need some comfirmation on this one from Icon or Sky. Am I allowed to mention player's names if it has nothing to do with cheating or sand bagging or cheating or quitting or cheating or multi-accounting, or cheating? Come back to me on that one will ya.
Anyway, I would have said YJ would be up for the 4000 posts prize, but I see he's already up to 4500 save spitting distance, so I guess it must be someone else. I'd better go find a page 7 somewhere.
I'm off in search of SM to get meself some of what he's got! I'm guessing all I need is a boat that doesn't float.-
MioKontic
4,159 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 6:48 PM 
gsoup:
Andyson, i have waited for this for 6 days.
Yes! 6 days goddamn it! Or 7 if you're in the UK. Where the hell you been! On strike or summat? 
StrangeMagic
1,304 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 9:25 PM
Collosal and stupendous Andy !!
Yes Mio, if I could bottle it, I'd sell it !
Let's recap:
1...I am on a deserted desert island with Victoria Secret models.
2...Emily Litella hit on me in the Enquirer.
3...And Lizzie is speaking to me again !
How damn good can life get man ?!
danohi50
1,020 PostsWed, Apr 6 2011 10:34 PM
OMG!
sdorr
650 PostsThu, Apr 7 2011 7:16 AM
"I'm guessing all I need is a boat that doesn't float."
Hey Mio, guess what? Today's your lucky day, just so happens that I have...... AH, never mind.
 |   | sixkiller 1,147 Posts | Thu, Apr 7 2011 8:06 AM |
- ROFLMAO, well done as usual Andyson!
MioKontic
4,165 PostsThu, Apr 7 2011 11:45 AM sdorr:
"I'm guessing all I need is a boat that doesn't float."
Hey Mio, guess what? Today's your lucky day, just so happens that I have...... AH, never mind.
I'll take it!
StrangeMagic:
Yes Mio, if I could bottle it, I'd sell it !
Let's recap:
1...I am on a deserted desert island with Victoria Secret models.
2...Emily Litella hit on me in the Enquirer.
3...And Lizzie is speaking to me again !
How damn good can life get man ?!
Stop teasing! I'll be with ya as soon as I get this rotten boat from sdorr. Just send me the GPS coordinates where you be. But privately man!!! We don't want everyone knowing where it is.
sdorr
650 PostsThu, Apr 7 2011 8:14 PM
Well Mio, it's not so much a rotten boat. It's more like a 2X12X16 that doubles as a bridge that goes over this depression in the back yard that collects water. The good news is that it's only been there a couple of years and I guarantee that it will not take on any additional water. Once you have the coordinates from SM, you can study the ocean currents and plan a suitable place to launch. (Providing that you obtain permission from Lizzie first to ride on her ooocean).
Please consider it my gift to you towards your happiness. (But you have to pick it up).
Great edition of the Enquirer there Andyson. Please keep up the good work.
Have a nice day.
Switz71
278 PostsThu, Apr 7 2011 8:42 PM
Once again Mr. Andyson, a classic. Woke the wife up gigglin this mornin, pretty good way to start the day lol
PugsAce
1,825 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 1:14 AM YankeeJim:
Beyond epic..............
.............. and into the Realm of the Truly Hilarious! LMAO
It seems that Dr. Bunsen Honeydew didn't stop with just the explanation, however... and Beaker has (as always) been left to deal with the aftermath of the Doc's over-exhuberance!
His further stimulus of the changes in magnetic flux and increased electromotive force seems to have caused the servers to enlarge Beaker's swing-meter beyond belief!
VEM be damned! NASA better get to work on his meter problem right quick!
Great Issue, Andy! :]
andyson
6,415 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 5:30 AM
LMAO Pugs! I love Beaker!
That is so good, I'll be expecting your contribution to the next Enquirer May 1st!
MioKontic
4,165 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 5:43 AM andyson:
next Enquirer May 1st
You heard it here first folks. Reserve your copy now.
andyson
6,415 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:21 AM MioKontic:andyson:
next Enquirer May 1st
You heard it here first folks. Reserve your copy now.
Thank you for that. You'll be most interested Mio in our upcoming expose' of avatar crossbreeding...
gsoup
2,929 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 7:00 AM andyson:
Thank you for that. You'll be most interested Mio in our upcoming expose' of avatar crossbreeding...
my back hurts, then i had to laugh at that. now its better ty
SgtDoodles
3,112 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 9:29 AM
When I searched for www.banandyson.com it came up with an option to search for 'Banana dyson'. WTF?
Btw, who is Sarge?
| | | MioKontic 4,165 Posts | Fri, Apr 8 2011 4:39 PM |
- andyson:MioKontic:andyson:
next Enquirer May 1st
You heard it here first folks. Reserve your copy now.
Thank you for that. You'll be most interested Mio in our upcoming expose' of avatar crossbreeding...
He looks absolutely hideous! 
StrangeMagic
1,304 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 4:49 PM MioKontic:
He looks absolutely hideous!
I agree.....
but he does have a nice hat !
LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:05 PM
Which neatly brings me to a post I didn't write,but could have nearly two weeks ago.
Whilst I am unable to specify exactly when, due to a certain indisposition involving the rescue of several puppies and the discovery of just who had been at my jam,I can with equanimity state that the actual time of the post I didn't but could have written,is more or less totally irrelevant.In fact,this very post is just an experiment to see if I can winkle out those among us who shall not be named(not because thats against forum rules,but because they are so insignificant that I can honestly say I don't remember their names-but they know who they are),who think that rambling posts that have nothing to do with their own assinine interests are a waste of their time.Rather begs the question then,as to why they would waste their time even reading them.or breathing.
However,let us not mire ourselves-we were talking hats,and I have a pink one.
Lizzie xxLizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:06 PM
Interwoven straw as it happens,thankyou for wondering.Switz71
278 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:15 PM
My fuscia speedo doubles as my hat.
On particular hot days, I borrow one of them fancy umbrellas, of the cocktail variety to keep the sun out of me eyes.MioKontic
4,165 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:20 PM LizzieRossetti:
we were talking hats,and I have a pink one.
To go with those pink wolly knickers and pink balls... which incidentally I don't see you with any more.
jeffdos924
1,085 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:27 PM Switz71:
I borrow one of them fancy umbrellas, of the cocktail variety to keep the sun out of me eyes.
Wouldn't you need 2 umbrellas? .... unless it was typo, and you meant to say .."me eye". That S could have slipped in on your blind side w/o noticing.LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:30 PM
Mio,you said you wouldnt tell about seeing me without my wooly Knix.LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsFri, Apr 8 2011 6:32 PM
I was just looking at where my name is on the top line of my last post,and next to it there is a flag.
God I love that flag.and would die for it.LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 12:18 AM
Wierd but I just realised you might well have been referring to the pink balls and not my Wooly knix,so you are entirely excused nay exonerated Mio,and I personally am happy again that no one will be aware nor any the wiser about my indiscretionation re: the knix thing.
While I am writing,I ought to mention that luckily,for the last few days I seem to have been bug free where my personal message system is concerned and I am no longer falling victim to having our communications together being misdirected into the main forums.You were right in your assumption that having cleared my flashing cache,I had thus inadvertantly allowed the 'bots deployed by the wgt machine into my own system,and it was they who wreaked havoc both in my folders dealing with correspondence and my actual gameplay.This is borne out by my being unable to eagle BP # 4 as usual,and occasionally BP #15 just like you do.
I agree also that we should keep this between ourselves,ha ha,it just wouldn't do for the whole community to be aware,we have to maintain the illusion that we are just ordinary folk. I will continue to post desultory posts concerning VEM,ball life and innacurate yardages to help foster that illusion.
Oh,lastly,I must thank you for the "super" club you designed,I feel honoured that you allowed me to share in its secret testing.I think the ability to drive accurately up to 460yds without having to aim or ding is going to be quite useful when I fix my average and begin our takeover of the legend tier as we discussed.
anyway,toodles for now,just going to check the forums.
Lizzie xx
| | | PugsAce 1,825 Posts | Sat, Apr 9 2011 12:31 AM |
- andyson:
LMAO Pugs! I love Beaker!
Andy, I could only wish to have the "Nose for News" that you have! And the satirical wit with which you present it to us is truly one-of-a-kind.
The most recent WGT Enquirer "Easter Egg" was the "stimulus" for Beaker's involvement.
Thanks to Dr. Honeydew's analytical delvings, his wary assistant seems to be developing his own "WGT nose"...
Thanks for the opportunity to provide you with a well-deserved chuckle! :] LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 1:01 AM
Oh my.
It's a joke guys,honest.-
MioKontic
4,165 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 3:13 AM LizzieRossetti:
Oh,lastly,I must thank you for the "super" club you designed,I feel honoured that you allowed me to share in its secret testing.I think the ability to drive accurately up to 460yds without having to aim or ding is going to be quite useful when I fix my average and begin our takeover of the legend tier as we discussed.
Oopsie Lizzie, I think that message was meant to have gone to Icon. Now you've let the cat out the bag. So it is all true about pre-determined game results. There'll be one or two interested parties in this admission! What one will do to be a... well... a blankety blank!
(Note: There's no Blankety Blank Cheque Book & Pen for right answers).
LizzieRossetti:
Wierd but I just realised you might well have been referring to the pink balls and not my Wooly knix
Yes, I was referring to the pink balls, but now that you come to mention it I haven't seen you in those wolly knix (as you so affectionately call them), but as it's getting a bit warmer now I guess you don't need them. Bikini bottoms is (almost) the order of the day now, but not on the golf course obviously!
Back to balls, I'd have thunkered (I hope I've got my tense right there) you would have requested, nay insisted, that WGT make them there Callaways in anything other than white, namely pink... at a reduced price of course! LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 3:35 AM
I already use pink callaways.They come with a special offer from Ike,who sold me a pair of rose tinted spectacles,works like a charm,and all for just £9.99.I look so cool in them too,so cool that at a recent nine inch nails gig,I could have sold them 50 times over.
This was the gig that started to turn a bit nasty after a roadie clubbed a skinhead with his torch,and upset all the other skinheads who wnated a go too.I resumed the peace by taking to the stage and giving my acapella version of "Come by yah" followed by making dampers and mars bars wrapped in orange skins baked in tinfoil over the fire started by some students who thought they were at a student loans demo.They weren't but their fire was just lovely,although event management seemed a bit peeved.You would think a set of stage curtains were made of gold or something the way they moaned.Resolved that one by letting Lambert have at them with his pogo stick,he looks quite the tyrant in torn jeans and braces,but I felt the safety pin through his right eyebrow was a step too far,and cook had the awfullest job sewing him back together afterwards.Cost us two bottles of "Anaesthetic" from somewhere called Glen Morange to keep Lambert still.
I got one drumstick and a broken plectrum for my collection,but think I might have left my wooly Knix behind,but then,someone had to do something for the triple A backstage pass.
In other news,I varnished one third of my accomodation boards for the yacht,but failed to allow adequate drying time and now the dog is partially hairless on account of him inadvertantly lying on drying board,and my having to liberate the board from his flesh.The good news is,now that he has ugly bald patches,I can earn even more cash in the subway.
Lizzie xxSwitz71
278 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 7:57 AM jeffdos924:Switz71:
I borrow one of them fancy umbrellas, of the cocktail variety to keep the sun out of me eyes.
Wouldn't you need 2 umbrellas? .... unless it was typo, and you meant to say .."me eye". That S could have slipped in on your blind side w/o noticing.
Wouldn't I look weird with 2 umbrellas? It's all about the glamourables
sdorr
650 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 8:26 PM
I should read all of this when I am sober.
Na.andyson
6,415 PostsSun, Apr 10 2011 5:57 AM Switz71:
Wouldn't I look weird with 2 umbrellas? It's all about the glamourables
No, actually quite chic! It does take a bit of time to get used to the small pieces of duct tape fastening to one's nose. And you need to be aware they will blow off while chasing birds and whatnots.
No animals were harmed, injured, or bothered in the production of this post.
YankeeJim
25,827 PostsSun, Apr 10 2011 7:44 PM andyson:
No animals were harmed, injured, or bothered in the production of this post.
Readers were............ :-D
YancyCan
3,023 PostsSun, Apr 10 2011 9:40 PM
YankeeJim,
Congrats on your 4,444 post!
I like the number 4.
I once hosted a tournament where you had to try turn in a card with all 4's. Meaning you had to bogey the par3's, birdie the par5's and par the 4's.
The 4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4 Ultimate Open I think it been called and such.
Hello - I am Yancy
Switz71
278 PostsMon, Apr 11 2011 9:54 AM andyson:
It does take a bit of time to get used to the small pieces of duct tape fastening to one's nose.
err umm the wife says I'm not allowed to handle duct tape anymore and to the best of my knowledge I have no comment on that subject
- andyson:
LMAO Pugs! I love Beaker!
Andy, I could only wish to have the "Nose for News" that you have! And the satirical wit with which you present it to us is truly one-of-a-kind.
The most recent WGT Enquirer "Easter Egg" was the "stimulus" for Beaker's involvement.
Thanks to Dr. Honeydew's analytical delvings, his wary assistant seems to be developing his own "WGT nose"...
Thanks for the opportunity to provide you with a well-deserved chuckle! :] -
LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 1:01 AM
Oh my.
It's a joke guys,honest. -
MioKontic
4,165 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 3:13 AM LizzieRossetti:
Oh,lastly,I must thank you for the "super" club you designed,I feel honoured that you allowed me to share in its secret testing.I think the ability to drive accurately up to 460yds without having to aim or ding is going to be quite useful when I fix my average and begin our takeover of the legend tier as we discussed.
Oopsie Lizzie, I think that message was meant to have gone to Icon. Now you've let the cat out the bag. So it is all true about pre-determined game results. There'll be one or two interested parties in this admission! What one will do to be a... well... a blankety blank!
(Note: There's no Blankety Blank Cheque Book & Pen for right answers).
LizzieRossetti:
Wierd but I just realised you might well have been referring to the pink balls and not my Wooly knix
Yes, I was referring to the pink balls, but now that you come to mention it I haven't seen you in those wolly knix (as you so affectionately call them), but as it's getting a bit warmer now I guess you don't need them. Bikini bottoms is (almost) the order of the day now, but not on the golf course obviously!
Back to balls, I'd have thunkered (I hope I've got my tense right there) you would have requested, nay insisted, that WGT make them there Callaways in anything other than white, namely pink... at a reduced price of course! -
LizzieRossetti
1,545 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 3:35 AM
I already use pink callaways.They come with a special offer from Ike,who sold me a pair of rose tinted spectacles,works like a charm,and all for just £9.99.I look so cool in them too,so cool that at a recent nine inch nails gig,I could have sold them 50 times over.
This was the gig that started to turn a bit nasty after a roadie clubbed a skinhead with his torch,and upset all the other skinheads who wnated a go too.I resumed the peace by taking to the stage and giving my acapella version of "Come by yah" followed by making dampers and mars bars wrapped in orange skins baked in tinfoil over the fire started by some students who thought they were at a student loans demo.They weren't but their fire was just lovely,although event management seemed a bit peeved.You would think a set of stage curtains were made of gold or something the way they moaned.Resolved that one by letting Lambert have at them with his pogo stick,he looks quite the tyrant in torn jeans and braces,but I felt the safety pin through his right eyebrow was a step too far,and cook had the awfullest job sewing him back together afterwards.Cost us two bottles of "Anaesthetic" from somewhere called Glen Morange to keep Lambert still.
I got one drumstick and a broken plectrum for my collection,but think I might have left my wooly Knix behind,but then,someone had to do something for the triple A backstage pass.
In other news,I varnished one third of my accomodation boards for the yacht,but failed to allow adequate drying time and now the dog is partially hairless on account of him inadvertantly lying on drying board,and my having to liberate the board from his flesh.The good news is,now that he has ugly bald patches,I can earn even more cash in the subway.
Lizzie xx -
Switz71
278 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 7:57 AM jeffdos924: Switz71:
I borrow one of them fancy umbrellas, of the cocktail variety to keep the sun out of me eyes.
Wouldn't you need 2 umbrellas? .... unless it was typo, and you meant to say .."me eye". That S could have slipped in on your blind side w/o noticing.
Wouldn't I look weird with 2 umbrellas? It's all about the glamourables
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sdorr
650 PostsSat, Apr 9 2011 8:26 PM
I should read all of this when I am sober.
Na. -
andyson
6,415 PostsSun, Apr 10 2011 5:57 AM Switz71:
Wouldn't I look weird with 2 umbrellas? It's all about the glamourables
No, actually quite chic! It does take a bit of time to get used to the small pieces of duct tape fastening to one's nose. And you need to be aware they will blow off while chasing birds and whatnots.
No animals were harmed, injured, or bothered in the production of this post. -
YankeeJim
25,827 PostsSun, Apr 10 2011 7:44 PM andyson:
No animals were harmed, injured, or bothered in the production of this post.
Readers were............ :-D -
YancyCan
3,023 PostsSun, Apr 10 2011 9:40 PM
YankeeJim,
Congrats on your 4,444 post!
I like the number 4.
I once hosted a tournament where you had to try turn in a card with all 4's. Meaning you had to bogey the par3's, birdie the par5's and par the 4's.
The 4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4 Ultimate Open I think it been called and such.
Hello - I am Yancy
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Switz71
278 PostsMon, Apr 11 2011 9:54 AM andyson:
It does take a bit of time to get used to the small pieces of duct tape fastening to one's nose.
err umm the wife says I'm not allowed to handle duct tape anymore and to the best of my knowledge I have no comment on that subject
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ICONIAN's TIPS
WGT FORUM THREAD How to properly use chip and pitch clubs: A guide V2.0W
 |   | iconian 599 Posts | Sun, Jan 3 2010 4:34 PM |
*This has been fairly popular. I finally have some free time to properly update it with more readable language and better formatting. A special thank you goes to drivnchaos for his help with the wording.*
I know many of you have trouble figuring exactly how the chip and pitch shots work. Since all clubs have different distances, when using the chip or pitch shot, this will be a general guide. If you use this as a guideline, and practice a bit, you should be able to improve your short game.
During the first section of this guide we'll be using the standard clubs, standard green speed and standard ball. Later on the different green speeds and balls will be covered. Due to green speed changes, at the end of this guide, I will update with the details on how to adjust it.
If you do not read the last paragraph if this guide, then you might as well close the window now!
I'll start with the chip shot:
The chip shot gives about 25% air travel, the rest is time spent rolling on the green. Chip shot is most important when a person in on a fringe and has a putt with major break and/or elevation change. It allows you to carry few yards in the air, bypass all the nasty elevation/break and then land on green and roll in the roll. This means an accurate read of the green is needed when using this. Since the air time is so short, the distance from the green is also a big factor. If you are more than 2yds off the green, do not use the chip shot. The pitch shot is the better option.
Most often the chip is played using a wedge, but can be played with any iron. Remember that the ball spends alot of time on the green when chipping so the right/left break must be read accurately. It is probably best not to go any higher than a 9 or 8 iron for this reason. ie:
You're trying to chip a 35yd shot. Your ball will land about 9 yrds away, and roll another 26 yds. That's a 78 ft roll where the break of the green will influence your shot.
The distance of each club is the distance when playing from the fairway, to a level target. If You are standing on the fairway, the hole is 17yds away, and the elevation is 0, your shot should go about 17yds. Since this is usually not the given lie, here are a few things to factor into your shot.
- 1) What is your lie in the rough and how far away is the green. Remember if you are more than 2yds from the green, don't use the chip.
- 2)What is the elevation difference.
- 3)What is the break of the green where your shot will first hit the green. The break may be slight near the hole, but remember that the ball rolls for 75% of the shot. Try dragging the aim arrow to where you think the ball will touchdown, and check the break there also.
- 4)Always practice using 1 type of chip. I always use backspin, very rarely using topspin or no spin, so all distances givin are using backspin.
With these things in mind, here are a couple of examples. For these I'll be using a 17yd chip shot
A) You have a 13yd chip from 40/50 rough and the hole is 1ft below you. Your ball is on the edge of the rough, so there should be no problem using the chip shot. Now since you're in the 40/50 rough, more power is needed, but the hole is downhill so there is more run involved. That's the tricky part.
In general the 40/50 rough requires 40% more power to get the distance you want.That means in order to go 13yds, A shot with 19yds of power is needed. Remember this is with 0 elevation change.
The hole being 1ft lower than the ball means that a full 17yd chip shot from the fairway, would run to about 20yds. This is where practice is needed.
Knowing that the ball will go 20yds due to the downslope, and knowing more power is needed to release the ball from the rough, you need to find the midpoint of the 2 shots. From experience I've found that hitting with 15yds of power, and full backspin, I can drop it within 3ft 8 out of 10 times. Remember that this is a shot with no left/right break.
B) This one you're on the fairway chipping to an uphill green with a break to the right. A good example of this is Bethpage hole #11.
You're about 19yds short and the hole is 2ft uphill. The green breaks hard left to right. Remember that hitting uphill will require more power, but since you're on the fairway, not alot more. Also, the break will add distance to the shot. 1yd per foot uphill, and since I'm aiming about 1yd to the left, I'll add an extra yd. Thats 3yds extra power, aiming to the left about a yard. Usually this gets me up close to the hole. The best thing here is practice.
The thing to think about with chipping is this. It is a recovery shot. You have missed the green with your first, second, or third shot, and now you just want to save par. Getting it close to the hole, for an easy putt, is the important part. Course management and effective use of the chip, will save you at least 1-2 shots per round. As you will be consistently getting close to the hole, the chips will start to fall in.
Now I'll move on to the pitch shot.
The pitch shot gives about 50% air travel before hitting the green. This means less time rolling, and less influence from the break.
The pitch shot works well when you're to far away to chip. This is most often on Bethpage where the rough stops the ball quickly. The use of the pitch shot is essential on Bethpage.
Here are a few rules to follow for the pitch shot:
- 1) From the fairway subtract 4 to 5 yards
- 2) From 30/40 rough add 0 yard
- 3) From 40/50 rough add 2 yards
- 4) from 10/20 sand subtract 1 yards
The same rules apply to pitching as they do on chipping when an uphill/downhill approach is encountered. Also take into account the right/left break of the green. As I said earlier, the break has less influence because the ball is not spending as much time on the green.
The pitch shot is very useful when you are short of the green on Bethpage #10. When I am in the rough or sand 22-28 yds out, I just follow the above rules, and I am within 5ft 90% of the time. There are some greens that have a large incline between the rough/sand and the hole. #5 and #6 on Bethpage are good examples of this. This is where being 2yds off your power can mean being stuck in the rough or being 10-12ft past the hole. The best advice I can give you is to keep notes on the trouble spots. That way when you are there again, and you will be lol, you can adust your shots for a better result.
As a final note on chipping and pitching. These 2 shots are probably the most consistent parts of this game. Being able to use them properly will easily shave 2-3 strokes off your game on Bethpage.
Just a few words on the punch option. I like to call this an advanced option
This shot works well on Bethpage to get yourself out a tough situation. The rough on that course is deep in most spots, and the punch shot can really save your round. I find that when punch is used, from the rough, the distance of the club travel is closer than that of a full shot. This also works when you are facing a headwind, from the fairway. A good example of this is Bethpage #1. A 188yd punch shot into a 9 headwind will go about 185yds. A 185yd full shot will only go about 177yds.
The punch has a few more fairway uses on Kiawah though. I regularly use it on holes #13, #15, and #16 for 2 reasons.
The first is those holes usually play a short by 3-4yds, and any kind of wind, along with deviations can cause havoc.
I once hit a perfect 128yd club with a 5 tailwind only to land at 115yds on Kiawah #16. By hitting the punch shot ther I can be sure it will get there.
The punch shot does take more practice, and a gentle touch, so I will not go into much more detail. You will have to try it out, first by getting yourself out of trouble, then by experimenting with it in different situations. There are some shots where punch will easily save you par where ANY other shots will result in a bogey or worse!
The flop shot:
This has changed the most of all 3 shots. The key as always is to know the speed and slope of the green. For example, If you're in the bunker on Bethpage # 4, you have about 18yds to the hole. My flop is 15yds, but if I hit it full power, with full backspin, I will always land within 3ft of the hole. This is because it lands on a downhill slope. Flop is hard to aim, generaly rule is about 6-8 ft left of the hole but because flop is 75% air 25% run, wind highly influences it.
On the same #4 BP if you are left of the flag with about 25 yards left from the fairway, 4 types of wind on a fast grene will result in 4 different aim options and 4 different power settings. With 10mph tail wind, hitting as 21yards of power is enough, with 10 head wind, hitting with 24 yards of power is good. With 10mph right wind, aiming 2-3ft closer to the flag will do the trick. Since winds are rarely straight tail or head, practice will be required to adjust properly aim and power of the shot accordinly
Flop will probably be the lesser of the 3 shots you will hole out, but in some situations, because of it's flying tragectory, it will be the difference between par and bogey while utilizing any other shots.
Now the clubs :
You need to practice with them to understand the carry and roll. With the basic set you could count on a certain distance in the air and on the ground. The chip was always 25% air 75% roll, and the pitch was always 50% air 50%roll. The new clubs all seem to have their own distances so trial and error is the way there. Some clubs have the 50/50 split while others have a 75/25 split. Practice, again, will be the best thing.
The thing to remember is since the green speeds have increased, your short game must become more percise. Where 3ft long before was good, now it has become 10ft. I still recommend taking notes as to how each hole plays from each distance. Your notes, in combination with these tips, will have you rattling the flagsticks !
Lastly, there are VERY FEW places, where in my opinion any of the 3 shots can be used interchangibly (excluding punch). General rule is, always use same shot from same spot (that is, if you gotten close before). By far THE MOST IMPORTANT point of this guide, is to keep notes. If you do not keep notes about what you hit from what spot, how hard, and how far it was aimed as well as the result of the shot executed, then you will simply forget the shot you executed and will be frazzled the next time you get there.
Update 1/04/10
With the introduction of new clubs, balls , and green speeds, I thought the guide needed updating to reflect the lastest changes. The basics in the guide are still the same, there are just a few adjustments that need to be made.
I'll address the new balls first.
What is important here is extra distance and extra spin. Overall I think they make little difference on the chip/pitch/flop shots, but when combined with the new clubs and green speeds there is a noticeable change. Practice is the tip here. You just need to learn the new distances while applying the basic tips in the sections above.
The biggest difference, for chipping and pitching, are the green speeds. Adding in the slope and break of the green can mean the difference of being close before, and being 10ft past now.
The chip shot:
The same principle applies here. Know the lie percentage, the elevation change, and the right/left break of the green. The key here is the greens are faster, therefore the run will be further.
Lets look at that 13yd chip shot mentioned above. In the 40/50 rough a 40% power increase is needed. With a standard green speed this means 19yds is needed to go 13yds, on a flat surface. Now with a fast green speed, a power reduction is needed. I'd say reduce the power by 1yd on a fast green, and more on a very fast green.
The pitch shot:
The same principle applies again, but there is something to be added in. You must know where you are in relation to the hole. The best example of this is Kiawah #2. If you are 20yds long it will show the hole being 1ft up, but in reality once you are on the green, the hole is downhill 1ft. This type of misread will ruin your round. With this shot being from the fairway at 20 yds, with a flat surface you would want to hit about a 16yd pitch shot. Now when you factor in the green speed with a 1ft downhill green you're looking at a 14yd shot.
Another example would be the 40/50 rough pitch shot. Before it would have been a 27yd shot, now with faster greens and a downhill slope, you have a 25yd shot or less.
Lastly, there are VERY FEW places, where in my opinion any of the 3 shots can be used interchangibly (excluding punch). General rule is, always use same shot from same spot (that is, if you gotten close before).
By far THE MOST IMPORTANT point of this guide, is to keep notes. If you do not keep notes about what you hit from what spot, how hard, and how far it was aimed as well as the result of the shot executed, then you will simply forget the shot you executed and will be frazzled the next time you get there.
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Andyson Memorial 2016 - Final Result and de-brief. Dec 3
1Andyson Memorial 2016 - Final Result and de-brief.
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 |   | PaulTon 10,730 Posts | Sat, Dec 3 2016 8:03 AM |
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- Well, it's over! It has been my honour and pleasure to organise and host this event.
I think the discussion thread led us to a very successful format which despite a few hiccups, was fairly easy to run...
But only because I had a lot of people helping along the way. So from me, a huge personal thank you to these guys -
WigerToods, C.Everett, ScottHope, Bery111, Twominusone.
I'm sure I've missed a few names that helped me a lot (sorry, old stoner brain!) and some other people helped by posting on my wall and messaging me to keep me on track, all of you have my sincere thanks.
- FULL BRACKETS BELOW
Sounds like we got the final that this tournament deserved, great play from both guys. Dave (onekeano) has been outstanding, joint winner (with Adeypa) of the strokeplay event and then making the MP final only to lose on extra holes. Huge congratulions to him.
Getting to the final and then beating Dave shows how good a player Jure (mkrizan86) really is. Very, very well played Jure. For the next year you are officially the man!
p.s. Bery is holding the last final, final match of this whole lollapalooza...
THE HINGE AND BRACKET FINAL, FINAL
mrcaddie
2,429 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 10:47 AM
Paul,
Thank you so much for all of the time and effort you put in to make this event happen. It was incredible. I've put together similar events on WGT and I know how much of a toll it can take on your personal life and I applaud your effort.
Through your efforts I was able to make not only a new virtual friend but a new friend IRL with Mystry78, who I had the pleasure of playing with. As stated in another thread, he doesn't live that far from me and I hope come next Spring we'll be able to play some real golf with each other. That would never have happened without you putting this event together, so I thank you for that.
To those who helped Paul pull this off...I thank you as well.
R.I.P. Andyson
MC
Edit- Congrats to Jure, well played.
alosso
20,329 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 12:13 PM
You are AWESOME, all of you!
These events surely were a superior memorial party for the beloved Andyson.
Well done!!phred952
2,711 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 9:05 PM 
alosso:
You are AWESOME, all of you!
These events surely were a superior memorial party for the beloved Andyson.
Well done!!
+1000. I can' think of anything else to include with what alosso said above, except that I'm proud to have participated in this wonderful tribute to our friend. Thank you everyone for your hard work to make this come off.
ScottHope
7,740 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 1:13 AM
A fabulous effort by all concerned. It takes a lot of work to put together something like this so a huge thank you to Paul & Co. Well done! ; )
thegoosebag
2,264 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 5:46 AM
thanks to paul and all who helped him out,great tourney in memory of a lovely man
congrats to jure on a great win (i know how hard it is to beat dave,unlucky m8) and well done to all who participated in both comps
cheers mark.
CEverett12
14,177 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 5:55 AM
Well done Guys ! You all came together and put on a great tournament , Andyson would be proud ! Congratulations to the winners , Thank you Paul and Co. And everyone who participated ....
drmoose
3,478 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 6:27 AM 
Well done to all who participated. Kudos to Paul & Bery for their commitment, and congrats to the winners.
Doc-
PaulTon
10,730 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 7:18 AM
Thank you all for the kind comments, the best thing about all of this is the spirit in which we all came together and made this fun event a fitting tribute to Dennis.
For everyone involved -
Oh yeah, I forgot to thank Doc Moose for giving me ideas to inspire the in thread graphics. 
alanti
10,563 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 6:04 PM
Awesome job to everyone involved in putting these tribute tournaments together.
Through all your hard work and efforts, this turned into something special which is apt for such a tremendous contributor to the community.
A special thanks to all the players and community for getting behind this, I made new friends, reacquainted with old ones.......and we reminisced about the great times Dennis bestowed upon us.
I certainly felt proud to be a member of this community once again, and that is what makes it such a good place - the people who actually make this game great.
It took a community effort to honour Dennis and everyone should feel proud. I am sure Dennis looked down and was humbled.
Congratulations to all the official winners, but in my book, every player who participated is a winner.
Three cheers for everyone!
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bery111
3,859 PostsMon, Dec 5 2016 2:20 AM
Well done to everyone involved! Fantastically run, fantastically played and a fantastic memory for Dennis! I agree totally with what Alanti has said above.
As Paul eluded above...it's not over until the fat guy in the pink tutu sings (and I'm not sure if that's a good idea lol)....
So, over to Jure (mkrizan86) and BigKnight for the Final Final. This one's for fun, for you two guys to enjoy a final sand slinging contest in a search of extra-terrestrial life on St Andrews. Dennis has sent me a small request from t'other side as to the conditions:
18 hole Matchplay at St Andrews (setup as a practice match or go off your own tees if you're brave enough)
Front tees
Champ greens
Starter irons, 3wd, hybrid, wedges, putter and balls. You may use your own equipped driver.
Play as and when you are both able to arrange the match - we'll look forward to a match report here and a stream/recording of the match if either of you are able to.
Once again, thanks to all those that made this Memorial something special. Now we can look forward to next year's Andyson Memorial event.
BigKnight
2,764 PostsWed, Dec 7 2016 12:34 PM
Congrats to Jure for winning this! Looking forward to our Final Final. Conditions look to be fun...hopefully we can iron out a time over the next week or so
shovlovin
2,112 PostsWed, Dec 7 2016 12:59 PM
well done you guys, and hats off to Bery111.
1,866 Posts Thu, Dec 8 2016 3:30 PM bery111:
18 hole Matchplay at St Andrews (setup as a practice match or go off your own tees if you're brave enough)
Front tees
Champ greens
Starter irons, 3wd, hybrid, wedges, putter and balls. You may use your own equipped driver.
I saw this the day you posted it. I'm still clenched over the prospect of using the starter putter, but it should be fun ;-) Already sent my time table to BK (congrats on the win), we should get together soon enough. A huge thank you again to you, Paul and everyone else who helped in creating and running this fantastic event.
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PaulTon
10,730 PostsThu, Dec 8 2016 7:16 PM 
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bery111
3,859 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 1:28 AM mkrizan86:
I saw this the day you posted it. I'm still clenched over the prospect of using the starter putter, but it should be fun ;-) Already sent my time table to BK (congrats on the win), we should get together soon enough. A huge thank you again to you, Paul and everyone else who helped in creating and running this fantastic event.
This may or may not help "confuse" your opponent:
Not sure how long the putter will take to dry after a spray, so use at your discretion! :D -
bery111
3,859 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 1:30 AM PaulTon:
TY Paul - fantastic trophy once again. Good thing I'm not "in it to win it" - most people say I've got several screws loose and no one wants to be picking up those brackets after I've been at them! lol -
1,866 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 1:54 PM
Starting in a few minutes, sadly no twitch.
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BigKnight
2,764 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 3:25 PM
The Final of all Finals is over. Twas a great time had by Jure and I as we toasted one last time to a great friend and WGT player...conditions were so much fun....starter balls on champ greens with a starter putter? lol.....
We traded the lead on the front at ST A. and came to the turn AS...Jure did a much better job than I of figuring out the putter, and was solid on the back nine. He won 4up.
Was a pleasure to make another new friend, and I enjoyed our chat along the way.
Cheers!
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1,866 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 3:30 PM
Let me start by saying another thank you to all who organised this event as a tribute to our dear friend Dennis, who brought both wisdom and joy to this place. I've had the pleasure of meeting a lot of great new people and will hopefully have the pleasure of playing with them again in the future.
As far as the match, Geof was a wonderful playing companion. We both had to adjust to the different sticks, in my case, especially the putter. Tough for us off dingers to guess the correct spot on the meter, let alone clicking it in time ;-) But after a couple of holes, it was as if muscle memory from Corwyn's UEL starter comps and Ryder cups kicked in and started holing most putts within 15 feet. Lucky night for me, a little less fortunate for Geof. He started well and got 1 up on the 3rd hole, but then burnt the cup edge too many times. I won #5 (25 footer for eagle) and #6, we split the next 2 and were tied after 9, which he birdied and I didn't. But then came the back 9, where I won the 1st 4 holes, we tied #14 and #15 and the match was over with a score of 4&3.
We managed to find some rough, enjoyed the fescue on #13 and all in all had a fun outing. It was a privilege and a treat to have the opportunity of playing along one of the greats of this game, both in golfing and in human terms.
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PaulTon
10,730 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 5:02 PM 
gsoup
2,929 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 5:11 PM
very well done to all
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bubbsboy
6,876 PostsSat, Dec 10 2016 3:31 AM
Fantastic work from Paul and his hard working colleagues.
Well done winners and runners ups.
Well done to all who played and all who contributed to the various threads.
WGT should be proud that members of their game have came together like this, in what is a world wide online bit of fun. Not many here know each other in "real life" but have came together to honour a man who sadly passed away.
Will any other online community pull together in that way.....I presume not.
For once and for all WGT either comment or contact Paul by pm......it would ease some ill feeling, of that I promise.
RIP Dennis-
bery111
3,859 PostsMon, Dec 12 2016 4:38 AM
Well done Jure and Geof! Looks like you had a fun time with the starters! Thanks to everyone who came together for the Andyson Memorial. I leave you now with my saying for 2016: "If they won't, WE WILL" - I think it's self explanatory who the they are.
bery (looking forward to a year's worth of VEM after making that statement!) 
pdb1
22,329 PostsMon, Dec 12 2016 8:25 PM
I have completed my "Memorials to the Memorial" . They come in 3 parts .
1) THE ANDYSON CAMPAIGN ( a colorful look at the 1st Memorial Tournament )THE FULL TOURNAMENT ART
A look at the artwork submitted throughout the entire tournament
2) ***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***
An attempt to capture some highlights and comments during the event . To also honor PaulTon and crew in an easy scrolling wrap up of all the phases of the tournament . ( very long ) .
3) TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
My personal collection of ANDYSON artwork . I have gathered over the years . With over 40 entries .
Please enjoy .-
bery111
3,859 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 7:52 AM pdb1:
I have completed my "Memorials to the Memorial" . They come in 3 parts .
1) THE ANDYSON CAMPAIGN ( a colorful look at the 1st Memorial Tournament )THE FULL TOURNAMENT ART
A look at the artwork submitted throughout the entire tournament
2) ***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***
An attempt to capture some highlights and comments during the event . To also honor PaulTon and crew in an easy scrolling wrap up of all the phases of the tournament . ( very long ) .
3) TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
My personal collection of ANDYSON artwork . I have gathered over the years . With over 40 entries .
Please enjoy .
Fantastic tribute to a fantastic man. -
PaulTon
10,730 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 8:43 AM
Thank's Paul, nice work man.
A very cool reminder of the event (and the man himself). -
alanti
10,563 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 11:16 AM
Top stuff Paul, great tribute via your web site. -
drmoose
3,478 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 1:35 PM
Paul,
I must say that for people who were often at odds, you have put together a truly fine tribute to our departed friend. Thank you for this.
Doc 
Beryman
8,927 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 3:23 PM
great stuff Paul !
an amazing amount of work put into that...well done
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opyeuclid
6,484 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 4:37 PM
And this my Friends is what and why we have each other . The community of WGT land .
The game might glitch and some will Btch but others will look for fun , Andyson was one of few that enjoyed the other side of this game .
It was a pleasure to see how this Family stood up together for what was right .
Dear Santa ,
I ask for not my self of this season of joy . But that we all reflect on all the good things that this game put a smile on your face .
OPY-
pdb1
22,329 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 5:29 PM PaulTon:
Thank's Paul, nice work man.
A very cool reminder of the event (and the man himself).
Thank you Paul . From the start . Watching you take the reins . Being in the tournament . I knew I had to contribute as well . It was because of drmoose:
Paul,
I must say that for people who were often at odds, you have put together a truly fine tribute to our departed friend. Thank you for this.
Doc
That I gained the respect that I have for Andyson and all of you as well . Truly an epic experience . pdb1:
I have completed my "Memorials to the Memorial" . They come in 3 parts .
1) THE ANDYSON CAMPAIGN ( a colorful look at the 1st Memorial Tournament )THE FULL TOURNAMENT ART
A look at the artwork submitted throughout the entire tournament
2) ***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***
An attempt to capture some highlights and comments during the event . To also honor PaulTon and crew in an easy scrolling wrap up of all the phases of the tournament . ( very long ) .
3) TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
My personal collection of ANDYSON artwork . I have gathered over the years . With over 40 entries .
Please enjoy . -
mrcaddie
2,429 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 8:42 AM
PaulTon,
Just a quick, belated update...as stated previously, the player I got teamed up with in the matchplay section of your tournament doesn't live too far from me and I finally got to meet my nemesis, who so solidly handed me my hat in your Andyson Memorial Tournament, in real life.
It is still a little too cold to play outside here in New England, but we managed to play a round at an indoor golf simulator facility two days ago and we had a blast.
Thanks to you Paul, I now have a new indoor, outdoor and virtual golfing partner.
Thanks!
From L-R...mystry78, eingmund & mrcaddie
MC
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pdb1
22,329 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 9:16 AM
Wow . Wayne . How cool is that ?
Yes a GR8 example of the goodwill and humanity and an endless list of positive ramifications and future good things .
That has and will result from PaulTon's efforts from his magnificent Memorial Annual Event .
Right On , Cheers and Kudo's .
I'm still playing with friends I made during that event . Some new . Some long overdue . -
PaulTon
10,730 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 11:21 AM
How cool is that!?
That has genuinly made my day, thank's for sharing the news. 
craigswan
20,896 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 12:02 PM
Great stuff guys .-
alanti
10,563 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 2:39 PM PaulTon:
How cool is that!?
That has genuinly made my day, thank's for sharing the news.
Mine too.....an awesome outcome. Kudos again to Paul and everyone who helped make this the BEST WGT event and it did bring the community together.
To Dennis....raises glass (well coffee cup//// -
bubbsboy
6,876 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 3:30 PM
Fantastic that news.
Must be great meeting friends from here in real life
Chuffed for you -
opyeuclid
6,484 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 3:57 PM
Thats just way to cool ,
OPY
mystry78
879 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 3:58 PM
It was an absolute pleasure and a blast to meet Mr Caddie and Eingmund and play some sim golf. And this time I had my hat handed to me by both of them:)
I look forward to playing some real golf with these fine gentlemen this spring when the weather warms up around here.
Thanks again to Paul Ton for organizing this great event for our friend Andyson.
Frank
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SOME INTERESTING CHATS WITH A VERY COOL MEMBER "ACETATE"
email addresses
Between acetate, pdb1
[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 7:21 PM[/b]
Hey Paul, do we have a list of email addresses for our members?
BTW, how are you?
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:21 PM[/b]
I am fine . Did you receive a Newsletter ?
Emails of course everyone submits an email when they register in WGT . As they use each function it enables notifications for each function in their emails . You know this already . So as I request registration in the website . It also requires an email . So yes I have an email address for every member of the CC and then some . Of course there are many members from other CC's in the website and some members not in a CC at all .
But of course as admin I am entrusted to not release any personal information . So of course I would not do that .
But prior to my acquiring the website . Being a CC owner I received emails from many members and PM's from friends . I think I mentioned to you that at one point I had over 1000 friends on my list . So I tried to do group emails from my gmail . But with so many emails and so many ex CC members , and then just WGT friends that had no reason to receive my emails . The list was in the hundreds and impossible to keep up to date . So that method did not work .
Lol at that time . WGT's " message all members " was only available to owners . It did not work then . Then earlier this year WGT enabled more functions in CC's which included a feature for members to message all members . Lol . That did not work either . As far as I know . Have you tried it ?
As I have indicated previously you are likely to join my admin here at some point . Why do you ask about the emails ? I can help with that . How many do you want to send ? To all CC members I suppose . Let me know what you have on you mind .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:26 PM[/b]
do we have a list of email addresses for our members?
Come on Ace . You can't play dumb with me . You know fcking well that those lists just aren't lying around somewhere . Lol . Just talk to me bro . I gotta trust you first . And then you will have access to all media functions .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:38 PM[/b]
Real quickly here . I am sure you have all the fancy spread sheets and what not available to you for making your tournament and it's roster .
I use primitive methods for all mine , like Maxthon's Skynote , then copy and paste , or blank forms in photobucket . Writing , making , and editing in the website is another way . I could make a forum for your new tournament . You and , then them could just click on it and all the topics would be there as you created them . I will do that right now . Then I gotta make this weeks BLITZ scorecard .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:43 PM[/b]
ACE'S " Best of the Alternate Shot Championship "
[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:49 PM[/b]
You are probably going to slap me for this but here I go.
I'm trying to find a way to notify all of our members of my alternate shot tournament. Since many don't read the forum and my tournament doesn't show in the country club tournaments under the WGT game client there is roughly, what would you guess, 50+ percent of our CC that doesn't know it exists.
This is where you slap me, saying that it is too f#cking bad for them. I agree.
Still I want these tournaments to go. I know that I could PM each and every one of them individually. I was trying not to spend half my day doing so.
All that said I understand the privacy issue. I would be happy if the WGT contact members function worked or if we had a distribution list where members could email to the list without knowing the individual email address for every one.
I could setup a distribution list if you then wanted to load it with the emails, or is there already a similar feature on the VOTSCC website?
[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:53 PM[/b]
I was planning on using Challonge for the brackets. I like what you did with your tournaments and Challonge. I would like to build upon that.
If you haven't figured it out yet I'm learning anything and everything you care to share.
[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:57 PM[/b]
To answer one of your questions in this thread, yes I could develop crazy wicked pivot table spreadsheets that would let you look at our CC from any way imaginable.
My company use to do a lot of that with the solutions we delivered. Taking away the limits that client's IT departments created. Providing instant access to all data with the ability to slice and dice to your heart's content.
[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:58 PM[/b]
Thanks for setting up the thread out on VOTSCC.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 11:43 PM[/b]
Okay . I am used to people doing everything else but what I suggest . I was even going to gogle some other bracket generators for you . Who woulda thunk you were actually thinking of doing something I suggested like Challonge . Not I in a million years . Ok good deal then you are already well on your way .
You never did answer me . Did you receive the newsletter ?
"Thanks for setting up the thread out on VOTSCC."
Your welcome . You aint seen nothin yet .
Anyway I am hoping you received the newsletter . A feature in the website that allows group emailing . In specific groups . With delayed option that can be set for anytime in the future . Probably only good for New Years and birthday's . But there already is a birthday notification option that I could set to send a birthday greeting to a member . But no one enters their birthday . So that is useless .
I have already told you that i am not at all schooled in anything forum html , bbc , css , java script , wysiwyg , editing , etc . And what it makes worse is the forum makers are from the UK and their terminologies throw me off . Even if I knew the exact English description . That would only help me know what they were talking about . But I still wouldn't know how to utilize it .
[b]acetate wroteon 09 Nov 2015 at 8:20 AM[/b]
You gave me my first laugh of the day in your comment about the British terminology. I know exactly what you mean.
I did receive your newsletter. Cool deal. Have you been doing that for awhile? I would love to see just how many of our members that don't participate in the forums at least visit a specific thread after reading your newsletter.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 11:33 AM[/b]
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I just noticed that you have not answered any of my PM's . You have not confirmed the newsletter either . *** . If that's the case ? I will only send you this bottom portion by email . And you will have no idea what I have instore for you . Lol . But you probably get this .
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
acetate, pdb1 from "Valley of the Sun C C" - https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com
Okay . I am on lunch I have 2 minutes . You established that you received the newsletter , because I have enabled it . Did you receive any PM's from the site ? If you have then you already know the news . If you have not then we have a problem . See you in about 4 hours .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 7:49 PM[/b]
Have you been doing that for awhile?
Yes at least once a week . Sometimes more . For most of 2015 .
I would love to see just how many of our members that don't participate in the forums at least visit a specific thread after reading your newsletter.
Yes and I use the newsletter as a conduit to push the forum on the members . In fact most of them are just titled Quick links / date / little or no commentary , just links to the forum . I am consistent . I know they don't care about a newsletter update . I just have tried everything and even this quick link I think has little results . I cannot explain how frustrating it is to know that so much of what I suggest is so easy and only takes a couple minutes . I still get not even minimal . I get that they have jobs and family . I do too . I spend way too much time here . But I don't want that from them .
See this .I think this is his first maybe second post ever .
MGERAETS
3 Posts11-09-2015 6:02 PM
touching basepdb1
6,145 Posts11-09-2015 6:18 PM
Well it's about time Mike . Good to here from you bro . Keep in touch will ya ?
Thanx
Paul
Don't hurt yourself going so far out of your way to make this once in a lifetime post Mike .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 7:50 PM[/b]
The title is " here " . I should just boot him .
[b]acetate wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 8:43 PM[/b]
He has been here 5 weeks more than me yet has made 4% of the posts that I have.
Why do people join a country club if they don't want to participate in the country club? I'm sure that is a question you ask yourself on a daily basis.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 4:29 AM[/b]
He was a return member . one that I had removed previously , then asked to return and led me to believe he would step up . That is common . Then I re remove them .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 4:35 AM[/b]
You can see that in the website his join date was early June . Which probably means his original CC join date was late May .
Lol . Watcha gonna do
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 9:37 AM[/b]
Hmm... Since you gave up drinking and I can't I suppose we could practice our alternate shot game.
alternate shot tournament pairing
Between acetate, pdb1[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 9:38 AM[/b]
Any suggestions on how I should go about pairing?
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 11:47 AM[/b]
Yes . While I have 6 more minutes of lunch . It is very easy . Depending on the range of your tiers . Basically lower with lower middle with middle , upper with upper . Here is a helpful guide for making tourneys and match ups . Remember the higher green speed per matchup trumps . So try not to make it so it increases more than 1 green speed . I think this is the fairest method .
Hardest: Legends and TLs
Hard: Masters and TMs
Medium: Pros and TPs
Easy: Hacks and Amateurs.
The standard green speeds:
TLs: Championship 13
Legends: Tourney 12
TMs: Tourney 11
TPs and Masters: very fast 10
Pros: Fast 9
Amateurs: Standard 8
Hacks: Slow 7
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 11:52 AM[/b]
There is now a faster champion speed I think but that is not up there . Legends , Tour Legends , and champions have to grouped together . Tour master is the toughest one to figure . If there are masters to match them with then that will work . If not then more likely better to go up then to legend .
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 2:21 PM[/b]
If I'm understanding you as long as only the two players that are a pair in this tournament are playing a game, then the green speed of the higher level player will be used.
For example if we were paired, then we would be playing with a green speed ofTourney 12, as you are a Legend while I am a lowly Pro.
On the other hand if I were paired with Harry we would be playing at Very Fast 10, as Harry is a Tour Pro while I am still that lowly Pro.
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 2:21 PM[/b]
If I'm correct so far, then I would pair as follows:
Harry & Ace
Racinray76 & Jimq916
the eight Legends and Dan, the single Tour Legend would be matched via a draw
Kmamjmemedmmm & Skip380
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 2:22 PM[/b]
Or do I just shuffle everyone and play the tournament at Champion 13 green speed?
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:14 PM[/b]
Picking the pairing is the way to do it . You have the right idea . Basically matching teams and opponents woek almost the same if possible . DO NOT EVER pick faster green speeds if you have a choice . Which you do not . No one even the Legends , Tour Legends , And Champions LIKE their faster default championship green speeds . But they have no choice . And as the tournament creator unfortunately you do not either . I repeat ( It'll take you a while )( as I already wrote you all this in another thread ) in any match play or stroke play normal ranked or scored round the default green speed of the highest tier is AUTOMATICALLY chosen .
Unless you choose to play the tournament in practice mode where the green speeds can be chosen by the person who sets the match . This is acommon format for these types of matches that bare played through Challonge . As the scoring method is determined by you which means a practice round match that does not count in WGT . Will count in a Challonge match with the scoring determined by you .
I don't know if you follow all that . Read it carefully . I will help in all ways . But I would prefer not to type and type and type .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:16 PM[/b]
the highest level out of the 4 players will automatically be chosen .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:26 PM[/b]
Are you filling a bracket in challonge ? If so unless you have studied some of mine and figured out what and how I made up alt shot brackets . It is very difficult to do As you have to change the username of the registered challonge members to something else because the bracket maker will not allow you to put two registered usernames on the same line .
Omg Ace I can't imagine what you are feeling and thinking right now . I know what I went through . And I really would never wish that on any one else that I liked anyway . But it can be done . I will help you .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:38 PM[/b]
If you are filling a bracket in challonge on the bracket generator page at the bottom in advanced settings there is an option for shared admin . You might want to put me in that It might help .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:41 PM[/b]
Because so far you have not shared your info with me or any one . So I am only guessing .
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on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:46 PM[/b]
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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:20 PM[/b]
Link to tournament on Challonge.com - http://challonge.com/botasc01
You have admin rights. I setup an 8 count bracket, figuring 2 players for each slot.
We will use practice mode, per your recommendation. What do you think about:
- Very fast 10 green speed.
- Medium wind.
- Default tee and hole location.
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:24 PM[/b]
If this sounds good to you I am going to post the settings in the thread. If you want to fill in the brackets I can post that in the thread as well.
If you don't have the time I will fill in the bracket. You can change as you see fit.
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:29 PM[/b]
You remember that this is my first tournament. If I should post something or do something at a given time just tell me. You are not going to take offense if you say, 'Hey stupid, get your *** together.'
I learn pretty quick, so hopefully you won't have to call me stupid too many times.
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:44 PM[/b]
This is how I see the seeding:
- skip380 - champion - 91 - 61.87
- kmamjmemedmmm - champion - 94 - 62.52
- flavel - tour legend - 101 - 61.54
- dan - tour legend - 94 - 61.86
- gru1971 - legend - 94 - 59.75
- xdout - legend - 102 - 61.56
- pdb1 - legend - 98 - 63.19
- sage013 - legend - 98 - 63.29
- nitamgoht - legend - 99 - 63.93
- bertasion - legend - 87 - 64.74
- bill - legend - 92 - 64.66
- gene - legend - 92 - 65.34
- racinray75 - tour master - 93 - 67.80
- jimq916 - tour master - 97 - 79.68
- harry - tour pro - 93 - 69.44
- ace - pro - 46 - 72.47
Each two will be a pair, starting from #1 & #2 down to #15 & #16.
If this looks good to you I will plug them into the brackets.
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:52 PM[/b]
I went ahead and plugged them into the brackets. If that looks good I will post it to the thread.
[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:53 PM[/b]
I'm closing down for the night. Thanks for your help today.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:37 PM[/b]
You are doing a very good job . One very important thing to do is post in our WGT CC forum that
MY tournament is going to played through challonge . If you are not already please register in challonge with your WGT username . I will be posting the sign in link on my next post after everyone is registered .
The brackets will be live on page 3 in our website . Some of you know the routine . For some of you and myself , this will be our first attempt at this . So all of your help and cooperation will be needed and appreciated .
Thank God we have Paul to help us do this and have fun . And hope the next thing you hear won't be crickets . Lol .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:40 PM[/b]
The statement below in bold is optional
Thank God we have Paul to help us do this and have fun . And hope the next thing you hear won't be crickets . Lol .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:49 PM[/b]
After all the teams are set, you MAY receive an e-mail stating that you have been removed from the tournament (IGNORE THIS).
DO NOT SIGN UP AGAIN! Challonge requires combining (2) players into one slot and assigning scoring rights to the first player listed.
YOU HAVE NOT BEEN REMOVED, BUT HAVE BEEN LISTED AS A TEAM!!!
There are other various reasons to shuffle and move players around . Each time this happens an automated email from Challonge is generated stating that you have been removed from the tournament . Again IGNORE THIS !
Inevitably no matter how many times I post this notice . Several players Message me and say WTF Paul FCK YOU and your tournament . Remove me you a** hole . Go fck the donkey you rode in on .
It happens everytime . Lol.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:53 PM[/b]
You might post that whole thing . I would . They will know I wrote it . I will try to get to the bracket tonight . I am very tired also . If not I will do it tomorrow . I got layed off today . And will have a little time . Lol .
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 1:55 AM[/b]
I went without having them signup for Challonge. I figured that it would be difficult enough scheduling a time for their game and dealing with the configuration of a practice alternate shot game.
If I crash and burn I just hope that this will not turn everyone off to trying formats of tournaments other than what WGT restricts us to offer.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 7:16 AM[/b]
Inform the participants with a forum post that you are working to get it ready . you need to get the rounds set . Round 1 , semi finals , and finals click on each round from page 3 and edit .
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 8:10 AM[/b]
Thanks Paul.
Done. I made the edit from Challonge. I want to be familiar with and know how to manage tournaments from their site.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 2:16 PM[/b]
they have no idea what you are talking about . They have never heard of something like this before . I have tried every way there is to play these tournaments . You can't cut corners . All participants must literally be on the same page . there is no other way . At the very minimal the 4 in each bracket . But that won't work . What is the pre tournament check in time ? what is the tournament start time ? these have to be established this cannot work in an informal setting .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 2:18 PM[/b]
you must write up the procedure . Step by step .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 2:21 PM[/b]
"If I crash and burn I just hope that this will not turn everyone off to trying formats of tournaments other than what WGT restricts us to offer."
That is exactly what will happen .
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:23 PM[/b]
If you had such reservations, why didn't you stop me? I don't want people to play one, hate it, and run away forever.
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:29 PM[/b]
As for Challonge.com nobody ever needs to register. You can use it strictly as a tournament tracking system. The person that creates the tournament can enter scores, move the tournament along and it will display results just as it would if everyone signed in and appeared at a given time.
All of what you just posted negates that option. When I commented that Paul may come through before me to show how to configure the alternate shot game for practice mode, I meant just that. How you can switch settings at the 1st tee.
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:31 PM[/b]
I have made things much, much worse for you. I'm sorry. That is the furthest from my intent.
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:35 PM[/b]
As I wrote before, if you see me doing something that you think is crazy stupid stop me. I do not know how to recover this tournament at this point.
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:38 PM[/b]
You need to toss me out of your club. I don't see any other way to negate this.
Right now all of them are thinking so this is what it is going to be like with Paul and Ace working together.
If you would rather I will resign. I'm sorry about this.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:42 PM[/b]
No no no . Ace please . This is not a big deal . You made a hell of an effort . You are all good I promise you . Everyone will respect your efforts . I will see to that . nothing has changed . All good . I promise man . Nice try though . It is them that are complacent and unwilling to put it out . =You have shown great determination . This task is almost un do able . Maybe impossible . Do not feel bad .
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:49 PM[/b]
Whichever way you want me to go, I did enjoy being in your club and working with you.
I had no intent to give your club a black eye. I know how much you struggle to keep things running.
I learned a lot from you. Thank you for that. You have shown me more kindness in this month than everyone else together over this past year.
Just let me know how you want me to exit. I really am okay if you need to toss me. Just as I am if you would prefer I resign. Either way I would like to post a proper goodbye to the members before I am removed from its ranks.
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:49 PM[/b]
Thank you Paul. I am sorry that it had to end like this.
[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 4:00 PM[/b]
And one last point, I will still tell everyone that I believe would make a good member to give VOTSCC a try. That they will not be disappointed. It will be easy to do as that is a fact. You have a great club.
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 4:07 PM[/b]
Yes I am so happy that you see that . It can be a biotch . And things can get sticky and rough . But I'm still standing . As you are as well . And you haven';t even got your feet wet yet . Lol .
[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 4:08 PM[/b]
Right now all of them are thinking so this is what it is going to be like with Paul and Ace working together.
They better not think that . I will tell them to go jump in the lake . Lol .
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***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016
bery111
2,170 Posts[size=10]Mon, Dec 5 2016 3:20[/size]
Well done to everyone involved! Fantastically run, fantastically played and a fantastic memory for Dennis! I agree totally with what Alanti has said above.
As Paul eluded above...it's not over until the fat guy in the pink tutu sings (and I'm not sure if that's a good idea lol)....
So, over to Jure (mkrizan86) and BigKnight for the Final Final. This one's for fun, for you two guys to enjoy a final sand slinging contest in a search of extra-terrestrial life on St Andrews. Dennis has sent me a small request from t'other side as to the conditions:
18 hole Matchplay at St Andrews (setup as a practice match or go off your own tees if you're brave enough)
Front tees
Champ greens
Starter irons, 3wd, hybrid, wedges, putter and balls. You may use your own equipped driver.
Play as and when you are both able to arrange the match - we'll look forward to a match report here and a stream/recording of the match if either of you are able to.
Once again, thanks to all those that made this Memorial something special. Now we can look forward to next year's Andyson Memorial event.
BigKnight
2,085 Posts
Congrats to Jure for winning this! Looking forward to our Final Final. Conditions look to be fun...hopefully we can iron out a time over the next week or so
shovlovin
1,552 Posts Wed, Dec 7
shovlovin
1,552 Posts
well done you guys, and hats off to Bery111.
***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016 Icon-quote bery111:
18 hole Matchplay at St Andrews (setup as a practice match or go off your own tees if you're brave enough)
Front tees
Champ greens
Starter irons, 3wd, hybrid, wedges, putter and balls. You may use your own equipped driver.
I saw this the day you posted it. I'm still clenched over the prospect of using the starter putter, but it should be fun ;-) Already sent my time table to BK (congrats on the win), we should get together soon enough. A huge thank you again to you, Paul and everyone else who helped in creating and running this fantastic event.
PaulTon
9,611 Posts Thu, Dec 8 2016 8:16 PM
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bery111
2,170 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 2:28 AM
***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016 Icon-quote mkrizan86:
I saw this the day you posted it. I'm still clenched over the prospect of using the starter putter, but it should be fun ;-) Already sent my time table to BK (congrats on the win), we should get together soon enough. A huge thank you again to you, Paul and everyone else who helped in creating and running this fantastic event.
This may or may not help "confuse" your opponent:
***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016 Gold_spray_paint_5
Not sure how long the putter will take to dry after a spray, so use at your discretion! Very Happy
bery111
2,170 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 2:30 AM
***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016 Icon-quote PaulTon:
***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016 ANDYSON_american_hero
TY Paul - fantastic trophy once again. Good thing I'm not "in it to win it" - most people say I've got several screws loose and no one wants to be picking up those brackets after I've been at them! lol
mkrizan86
1,446 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 2:54 PM
Starting in a few minutes, sadly no twitch.
BigKnight
2,085 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 4:25 PM
The Final of all Finals is over. Twas a great time had by Jure and I as we toasted one last time to a great friend and WGT player...conditions were so much fun....starter balls on champ greens with a starter putter? lol.....
We traded the lead on the front at ST A. and came to the turn AS...Jure did a much better job than I of figuring out the putter, and was solid on the back nine. He won 4up.
Was a pleasure to make another new friend, and I enjoyed our chat along the way.
Cheers!
=bk=
mkrizan86
1,446 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 4:30 PM
Let me start by saying another thank you to all who organised this event as a tribute to our dear friend Dennis, who brought both wisdom and joy to this place. I've had the pleasure of meeting a lot of great new people and will hopefully have the pleasure of playing with them again in the future.
As far as the match, Geof was a wonderful playing companion. We both had to adjust to the different sticks, in my case, especially the putter. Tough for us off dingers to guess the correct spot on the meter, let alone clicking it in time ;-) But after a couple of holes, it was as if muscle memory from Corwyn's UEL starter comps and Ryder cups kicked in and started holing most putts within 15 feet. Lucky night for me, a little less fortunate for Geof. He started well and got 1 up on the 3rd hole, but then burnt the cup edge too many times. I won #5 (25 footer for eagle) and #6, we split the next 2 and were tied after 9, which he birdied and I didn't. But then came the back 9, where I won the 1st 4 holes, we tied #14 and #15 and the match was over with a score of 4&3.
We managed to find some rough, enjoyed the fescue on #13 and all in all had a fun outing. It was a privilege and a treat to have the opportunity of playing along one of the greats of this game, both in golfing and in human terms.
PaulTon
9,611 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 6:02 PM
***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016 ANDYSON_american_hero_JURE
gsoup
2,755 Posts Fri, Dec 9 2016 6:11 PM
very well done to all
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bubbsboy
5,513 Posts Sat, Dec 10 2016 4:31 AM
Fantastic work from Paul and his hard working colleagues.
Well done winners and runners ups.
Well done to all who played and all who contributed to the various threads.
WGT should be proud that members of their game have came together like this, in what is a world wide online bit of fun. Not many here know each other in "real life" but have came together to honour a man who sadly passed away.
Will any other online community pull together in that way.....I presume not.
For once and for all WGT either comment or contact Paul by pm......it would ease some ill feeling, of that I promise.
RIP Dennis
bery111
2,170 Posts Mon, Dec 12 2016 5:38 AM
Well done Jure and Geof! Looks like you had a fun time with the starters! Thanks to everyone who came together for the Andyson Memorial. I leave you now with my saying for 2016: "If they won't, WE WILL" - I think it's self explanatory who the theyare. Wink
bery (looking forward to a year's worth of VEM after making that statement!)
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BULLETIN 8
Mca19670
433 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 2:50 PM
Apologies to Sweetpoppy. In the ins and outs section I've wrote Sweetpoopy rather than poppy. Oops.
As for the poll I'm a Maybes Aye. The sooner they move that pin the better. Detest that hole.
Martin
Next260
256 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 2:57 PM
Great job again;
Questions
1:False ( guess)
2 & Don't know , did not Google
Poll : Maybe Aye
Happy birthday, enjoy your lager
dschom5
1,103 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 3:15 PM
Yet another fine bulletin. Thanks Martin for all the time you put into this. Always a nice read and keeps us up to date on what the members are doing. How about a little Bob Dylan next week, A little Tangled up in Blue.
Turd.
JimQ916
4,844 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 3:21 PM
First off Martin, Happy Birthday...I'd love to take you out for a Tennents but not sure I can paddle that far over to you. Another great bulletin!!!!! Congratulations to everyone for their shots, achievements and rounds....and thanks for the recognition of my lucky ones. Great song yet again also...U2 is in my top 10 and are talented as all heck...Bono rocks.
Ok, first off, "Maybe Aye" to another pin placement on #15 of Merion. That hole, as hard as it plays, is one of my favorites. There are a few holes on WGT that you're happy walking away with a par, and that is absolutely one of them. A different pin would be great though.
Question 1 - taking a guess, but I say a player isn't entitled to see his ball while playing a stroke, but I'm kinda sure it would help a lot. Questions 2 I had no idea....I looked the Ryder Cup history up so now know that answer. Queston 3....the golfer who wore no glove....is my all time favorite, Freddie (I've walked around many, many rounds watching him in Florida).
Also, thanks for another tournament named after me....truly honored. Maybe in this one I can do better than 12th (lol)....probably not.
Keep up the great work Martin...these things are great....JimMca19670
433 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 3:46 PM
ive got a few lined up for you now Turd. they are all stored away in the vault waiting to get played. many thanks, the more the merrier.
martin
Jtcooki
173 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 10:54 PM
As usual, well done again Martin! Always great to see and hear others successes in having fun!
Just an FYI, my HIO is on the same hole that Jim had his....so the yardage would've been the same....lol.....198 yds.
JeffMca19670
433 PostsMon, Apr 24 2017 11:11 PM
Wasn't sure if it was on different tees Jeff. Congrats on your HIO.
Cheers
Martin
kishoph
810 PostsWed, Apr 26 2017 3:42 AM
Thank you Martin.
Congratulations to all those that moved up a level and to the great shots of the week.
Poll: I don't remember any holes or pin positions, so I can't really answer Aye or Naw. Every hole is like a new experience for me.Mca19670
433 PostsWed, Apr 26 2017 4:57 AM
next time you play the 15th at Merion and don't land your ball below the hole you'll remember what we're talking about Gene. Lol.Mca19670
433 PostsWed, Apr 26 2017 9:39 AM
Would you believe it. Just played a 3 hole match there and I birdied the 15th. Think that's my 1st birdie at that hole. Might end up changing to a Maybes Naw by the end of the week. Lol.
pdb1
14,963 PostsWed, Apr 26 2017 8:13 PM
Mca19670:
Big welcome to SweetPoppy and Kittykat2017
Yes . Good week
spelling correctedMca19670:
Micamills hit a 403 yard drive. Hope it found the middle of the fairway Mike.
CONGRATS . Anywhere on the fairway . My last 3 400 yd plus drives didn't count . !st one was too long in the rough St. Andy's # 1. The next 2 were in alt shot and didn't count .Mca19670:
ROUND OF THE WEEK--
Nice pick and good point Martin .Mca19670:
MEMBER V MEMBER--Mca1967 defeated Textor in a 9 hole strokeplay match.
Again , Yawn . Lol , jk , not.Mca19670:
1. RULES OF GOLF
I'll say noMca19670:
2. HISTORY OF GOLF
IDKMca19670:
3. WHO AM I
IDK but he was born the same year as me . He must be good .Mca19670:
POLL-- The 15th at Merion
Don't think it would help me much on Merion .Mca19670:
Well seeing that its my birthday,
Very happy birthday Martin . Thanx for another GR8 bulletin .pdb1
14,963 PostsWed, Apr 26 2017 8:21 PM kishoph:
I don't remember any holes or pin positions, so I can't really answer Aye or Naw. Every hole is like a new experience for me.
Lol Thanx Gene . Now I don't feel so alone .
Textor
82 PostsSat, Apr 29 2017 8:59 AM
Thanks, Martin, for another excellent effort. I look forward to the beginning of the week and a new weekly bulletin. I can't imagine a week without our buddy, Hamish McTavish.
If you want to change the location of the pin on 15 at Merion, stop choosing hard pin locations. No one will complain, I assure you. Maybe Aye.
The par 3 challenge:
A rules official would say not necessarily. It's like situational ethics, it depends. Thanks to the golf gods, we can make the rules as we go along, sometimes.
The Ryder Cup, in its current arrangement of US golfers playing their European counterparts, began in the late 70's. Jimmy Carter was the President. Mr. Ryder, who supplied the trophy, envisioned a completion between the US and Great Britain. I believe that was during the third decade of the 20th century. It's become a must see event. The players play their hearts out even though they don't get paid. We can all relate, I think.
It's already been revealed: Who is Fred Couples? Freddie has become a perennial Masters favorite. He competes strongly every year through 54 holes before fading. Lucky for us, as a former Masters Champion, he has a lifetime exemption.
See you next week. Good Luck.
Textor
Mca19670
433 PostsSat, Apr 29 2017 10:48 AM
Cheers Textor although I will bring up the Ryder Cup question. Maybe I should have worded it better but the answer I was looking for was 1927. The very first year it started. As for Merion I wish I could change It but waiting for WGT to give us some better places to put the pin on that green. See u all Monday.
MartinMca19670
433 PostsSun, Apr 30 2017 1:43 PM
Just played the 15th at Merion again there and it's the first time I've ever played it with the pin in a different position. Don't know if this is new or just that I've never seen it before. Anyway walked off with a par so liking the new position.
Martinpdb1
14,963 PostsSun, Apr 30 2017 5:55 PM
http://www.wgt.com/courses/Merion/hole15.aspx
Here is hole 15 . I take it you are not talking about this pin .
But I know which one you mean . Way uphill .Mca19670
433 PostsMon, May 1 2017 1:16 AM
No I think that's the one I was originally talking about Paul. If I putted from where that pic is showing and slightly over hit the putt, I would end up off the green. You are then left with a 12 yard pitch back up which I'm now an expert at. Lol
DufferJohn7
731 PostsMon, May 1 2017 9:23 AM
Martin,
Sorry for the late response, I have no idea why. Always an enjoyable read and much appreciated post I look forward to reading each week.
On last week's poll, maybes naw. I'm too spoiled by my expensive Nikes to go back to the rock. The quick meter alone would put be out of bounds right, not to mention the inability to stop the ball. Good thing my tablet plays lots of vids for credits.
This week's poll, maybes aye as I like to see different pin positions for all courses but maybes naw as I find Merion 15 a challenge and have half a chance when I get the ball in the fairway in the middle of the landing area. Besides I'm sort of weird in that I like Merion. Early on I got totally wiped out there and was told it was a course to avoid. That appealed to my stubbornness and I made myself play it until I got it. I'm doing that now on Olympic and I finally got that bast*rd the other day in the VT second round but it got me back in the Free Multi round. GRRR
Looking forward to today's edition, have fun and hit 'em straight,
John
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***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***2016
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PaulTon
10,730 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 8:03 AM
Well, it's over! It has been my honour and pleasure to organise and host this event.
I think the discussion thread led us to a very successful format which despite a few hiccups, was fairly easy to run...
But only because I had a lot of people helping along the way. So from me, a huge personal thank you to these guys -
WigerToods, C.Everett, ScottHope, Bery111, Twominusone.
I'm sure I've missed a few names that helped me a lot (sorry, old stoner brain!) and some other people helped by posting on my wall and messaging me to keep me on track, all of you have my sincere thanks.
Sounds like we got the final that this tournament deserved, great play from both guys. Dave (onekeano) has been outstanding, joint winner (with Adeypa) of the strokeplay event and then making the MP final only to lose on extra holes. Huge congratulions to him.Getting to the final and then beating Dave shows how good a player Jure (mkrizan86) really is. Very, very well played Jure. For the next year you are officially the man!
p.s. Bery is holding the last final, final match of this whole lollapalooza...
THE HINGE AND BRACKET FINAL, FINAL 
mrcaddie
2,425 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 10:47 AM
Paul,
Thank you so much for all of the time and effort you put in to make this event happen. It was incredible. I've put together similar events on WGT and I know how much of a toll it can take on your personal life and I applaud your effort.
Through your efforts I was able to make not only a new virtual friend but a new friend IRL with Mystry78, who I had the pleasure of playing with. As stated in another thread, he doesn't live that far from me and I hope come next Spring we'll be able to play some real golf with each other. That would never have happened without you putting this event together, so I thank you for that.
To those who helped Paul pull this off...I thank you as well.
R.I.P. Andyson
MC
Edit- Congrats to Jure, well played.
alosso
19,845 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 12:13 PM
You are AWESOME, all of you!
These events surely were a superior memorial party for the beloved Andyson.
Well done!!
phred952
2,708 PostsSat, Dec 3 2016 9:05 PM 
alosso:
You are AWESOME, all of you!
These events surely were a superior memorial party for the beloved Andyson.
Well done!!
+1000. I can' think of anything else to include with what alosso said above, except that I'm proud to have participated in this wonderful tribute to our friend. Thank you everyone for your hard work to make this come off.
ScottHope
6,752 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 1:13 AM
A fabulous effort by all concerned. It takes a lot of work to put together something like this so a huge thank you to Paul & Co. Well done! ; )thegoosebag
2,238 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 5:46 AM
thanks to paul and all who helped him out,great tourney in memory of a lovely man
congrats to jure on a great win (i know how hard it is to beat dave,unlucky m8) and well done to all who participated in both comps
cheers mark.
CEverett12
13,596 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 5:55 AM
Well done Guys ! You all came together and put on a great tournament , Andyson would be proud ! Congratulations to the winners , Thank you Paul and Co. And everyone who participated ....
drmoose
3,443 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 6:27 AM
Well done to all who participated. Kudos to Paul & Bery for their commitment, and congrats to the winners.
Doc-
PaulTon
10,730 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 7:18 AM
Thank you all for the kind comments, the best thing about all of this is the spirit in which we all came together and made this fun event a fitting tribute to Dennis.
For everyone involved -
Oh yeah, I forgot to thank Doc Moose for giving me ideas to inspire the in thread graphics. 
alanti
10,538 PostsSun, Dec 4 2016 6:04 PM
Awesome job to everyone involved in putting these tribute tournaments together.
Through all your hard work and efforts, this turned into something special which is apt for such a tremendous contributor to the community.
A special thanks to all the players and community for getting behind this, I made new friends, reacquainted with old ones.......and we reminisced about the great times Dennis bestowed upon us.
I certainly felt proud to be a member of this community once again, and that is what makes it such a good place - the people who actually make this game great.
It took a community effort to honour Dennis and everyone should feel proud. I am sure Dennis looked down and was humbled.
Congratulations to all the official winners, but in my book, every player who participated is a winner.
Three cheers for everyone!
bery111
3,858 PostsMon, Dec 5 2016 2:20 AM
Well done to everyone involved! Fantastically run, fantastically played and a fantastic memory for Dennis! I agree totally with what Alanti has said above.
As Paul eluded above...it's not over until the fat guy in the pink tutu sings (and I'm not sure if that's a good idea lol)....
So, over to Jure (mkrizan86) and BigKnight for the Final Final. This one's for fun, for you two guys to enjoy a final sand slinging contest in a search of extra-terrestrial life on St Andrews. Dennis has sent me a small request from t'other side as to the conditions:
18 hole Matchplay at St Andrews (setup as a practice match or go off your own tees if you're brave enough)
Front tees
Champ greens
Starter irons, 3wd, hybrid, wedges, putter and balls. You may use your own equipped driver.
Play as and when you are both able to arrange the match - we'll look forward to a match report here and a stream/recording of the match if either of you are able to.
Once again, thanks to all those that made this Memorial something special. Now we can look forward to next year's Andyson Memorial event.
BigKnight
2,706 PostsWed, Dec 7 2016 12:34 PM
Congrats to Jure for winning this! Looking forward to our Final Final. Conditions look to be fun...hopefully we can iron out a time over the next week or so
shovlovin
2,112 PostsWed, Dec 7 2016 12:59 PM
well done you guys, and hats off to Bery111.
mkrizan86
1,866 PostsThu, Dec 8 2016 3:30 PM bery111:
18 hole Matchplay at St Andrews (setup as a practice match or go off your own tees if you're brave enough)
Front tees
Champ greens
Starter irons, 3wd, hybrid, wedges, putter and balls. You may use your own equipped driver.
I saw this the day you posted it. I'm still clenched over the prospect of using the starter putter, but it should be fun ;-) Already sent my time table to BK (congrats on the win), we should get together soon enough. A huge thank you again to you, Paul and everyone else who helped in creating and running this fantastic event.
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PaulTon
10,730 PostsThu, Dec 8 2016 7:16 PM -
bery111
3,858 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 1:28 AM mkrizan86:
I saw this the day you posted it. I'm still clenched over the prospect of using the starter putter, but it should be fun ;-) Already sent my time table to BK (congrats on the win), we should get together soon enough. A huge thank you again to you, Paul and everyone else who helped in creating and running this fantastic event.
This may or may not help "confuse" your opponent:
Not sure how long the putter will take to dry after a spray, so use at your discretion! :D -
bery111
3,858 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 1:30 AM PaulTon:
TY Paul - fantastic trophy once again. Good thing I'm not "in it to win it" - most people say I've got several screws loose and no one wants to be picking up those brackets after I've been at them! lol -
mkrizan86
1,866 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 1:54 PM
Starting in a few minutes, sadly no twitch. -
BigKnight
2,706 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 3:25 PM
The Final of all Finals is over. Twas a great time had by Jure and I as we toasted one last time to a great friend and WGT player...conditions were so much fun....starter balls on champ greens with a starter putter? lol.....
We traded the lead on the front at ST A. and came to the turn AS...Jure did a much better job than I of figuring out the putter, and was solid on the back nine. He won 4up.
Was a pleasure to make another new friend, and I enjoyed our chat along the way.
Cheers!
=bk= -
mkrizan86
1,866 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 3:30 PM
Let me start by saying another thank you to all who organised this event as a tribute to our dear friend Dennis, who brought both wisdom and joy to this place. I've had the pleasure of meeting a lot of great new people and will hopefully have the pleasure of playing with them again in the future.
As far as the match, Geof was a wonderful playing companion. We both had to adjust to the different sticks, in my case, especially the putter. Tough for us off dingers to guess the correct spot on the meter, let alone clicking it in time ;-) But after a couple of holes, it was as if muscle memory from Corwyn's UEL starter comps and Ryder cups kicked in and started holing most putts within 15 feet. Lucky night for me, a little less fortunate for Geof. He started well and got 1 up on the 3rd hole, but then burnt the cup edge too many times. I won #5 (25 footer for eagle) and #6, we split the next 2 and were tied after 9, which he birdied and I didn't. But then came the back 9, where I won the 1st 4 holes, we tied #14 and #15 and the match was over with a score of 4&3.
We managed to find some rough, enjoyed the fescue on #13 and all in all had a fun outing. It was a privilege and a treat to have the opportunity of playing along one of the greats of this game, both in golfing and in human terms.
-
PaulTon
10,730 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 5:02 PM -
gsoup
2,928 PostsFri, Dec 9 2016 5:11 PM
very well done to all
. 
bubbsboy
6,870 PostsSat, Dec 10 2016 3:31 AM
Fantastic work from Paul and his hard working colleagues.
Well done winners and runners ups.
Well done to all who played and all who contributed to the various threads.
WGT should be proud that members of their game have came together like this, in what is a world wide online bit of fun. Not many here know each other in "real life" but have came together to honour a man who sadly passed away.
Will any other online community pull together in that way.....I presume not.
For once and for all WGT either comment or contact Paul by pm......it would ease some ill feeling, of that I promise.
RIP Dennis-
bery111
3,858 PostsMon, Dec 12 2016 4:38 AM
Well done Jure and Geof! Looks like you had a fun time with the starters! Thanks to everyone who came together for the Andyson Memorial. I leave you now with my saying for 2016: "If they won't, WE WILL" - I think it's self explanatory who the they are.
bery (looking forward to a year's worth of VEM after making that statement!) 
pdb1
20,506 PostsMon, Dec 12 2016 8:25 PM
I have completed my "Memorials to the Memorial" . They come in 3 parts .
1) THE ANDYSON CAMPAIGN ( a colorful look at the 1st Memorial Tournament )THE FULL TOURNAMENT ART
A look at the artwork submitted throughout the entire tournament
2) ***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***
An attempt to capture some highlights and comments during the event . To also honor PaulTon and crew in an easy scrolling wrap up of all the phases of the tournament . ( very long ) .
3) TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
My personal collection of ANDYSON artwork . I have gathered over the years . With over 40 entries .
Please enjoy .-
bery111
3,858 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 7:52 AM pdb1:
I have completed my "Memorials to the Memorial" . They come in 3 parts .
1) THE ANDYSON CAMPAIGN ( a colorful look at the 1st Memorial Tournament )THE FULL TOURNAMENT ART
A look at the artwork submitted throughout the entire tournament
2) ***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***
An attempt to capture some highlights and comments during the event . To also honor PaulTon and crew in an easy scrolling wrap up of all the phases of the tournament . ( very long ) .
3) TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
My personal collection of ANDYSON artwork . I have gathered over the years . With over 40 entries .
Please enjoy .
Fantastic tribute to a fantastic man. -
PaulTon
10,730 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 8:43 AM
Thank's Paul, nice work man.
A very cool reminder of the event (and the man himself). -
alanti
10,538 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 11:16 AM
Top stuff Paul, great tribute via your web site. -
drmoose
3,443 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 1:35 PM
Paul,
I must say that for people who were often at odds, you have put together a truly fine tribute to our departed friend. Thank you for this.
Doc 
Beryman
8,793 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 3:23 PM
great stuff Paul !
an amazing amount of work put into that...well done
opyeuclid
6,282 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 4:37 PM
And this my Friends is what and why we have each other . The community of WGT land .
The game might glitch and some will Btch but others will look for fun , Andyson was one of few that enjoyed the other side of this game .
It was a pleasure to see how this Family stood up together for what was right .
Dear Santa ,
I ask for not my self of this season of joy . But that we all reflect on all the good things that this game put a smile on your face .
OPY-
pdb1
20,506 PostsTue, Dec 13 2016 5:29 PM PaulTon:
Thank's Paul, nice work man.
A very cool reminder of the event (and the man himself).
Thank you Paul . From the start . Watching you take the reins . Being in the tournament . I knew I had to contribute as well . It was because of drmoose:
Paul,
I must say that for people who were often at odds, you have put together a truly fine tribute to our departed friend. Thank you for this.
Doc
That I gained the respect that I have for Andyson and all of you as well . Truly an epic experience . pdb1:
I have completed my "Memorials to the Memorial" . They come in 3 parts .
1) THE ANDYSON CAMPAIGN ( a colorful look at the 1st Memorial Tournament )THE FULL TOURNAMENT ART
A look at the artwork submitted throughout the entire tournament
2) ***ANDYSON MEMORIAL***
An attempt to capture some highlights and comments during the event . To also honor PaulTon and crew in an easy scrolling wrap up of all the phases of the tournament . ( very long ) .
3) TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
My personal collection of ANDYSON artwork . I have gathered over the years . With over 40 entries .
Please enjoy . -
mrcaddie
2,425 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 8:42 AM
PaulTon,
Just a quick, belated update...as stated previously, the player I got teamed up with in the matchplay section of your tournament doesn't live too far from me and I finally got to meet my nemesis, who so solidly handed me my hat in your Andyson Memorial Tournament, in real life.
It is still a little too cold to play outside here in New England, but we managed to play a round at an indoor golf simulator facility two days ago and we had a blast.
Thanks to you Paul, I now have a new indoor, outdoor and virtual golfing partner.
Thanks!
From L-R...mystry78, eingmund & mrcaddie
MC
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pdb1
20,506 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 9:16 AM
Wow . Wayne . How cool is that ?
Yes a GR8 example of the goodwill and humanity and an endless list of positive ramifications and future good things .
That has and will result from PaulTon's efforts from his magnificent Memorial Annual Event .
Right On , Cheers and Kudo's .
I'm still playing with friends I made during that event . Some new . Some long overdue . -
PaulTon
10,730 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 11:21 AM
How cool is that!?
That has genuinly made my day, thank's for sharing the news. craigswan
17,100 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 12:02 PM
Great stuff guys .-
alanti
10,538 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 2:39 PM PaulTon:
How cool is that!?
That has genuinly made my day, thank's for sharing the news.
Mine too.....an awesome outcome. Kudos again to Paul and everyone who helped make this the BEST WGT event and it did bring the community together.
To Dennis....raises glass (well coffee cup//// -
bubbsboy
6,870 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 3:30 PM
Fantastic that news.
Must be great meeting friends from here in real life
Chuffed for you -
opyeuclid
6,282 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 3:57 PM
Thats just way to cool ,
OPY 
mystry78
798 PostsMon, Feb 6 2017 3:58 PM
It was an absolute pleasure and a blast to meet Mr Caddie and Eingmund and play some sim golf. And this time I had my hat handed to me by both of them:)
I look forward to playing some real golf with these fine gentlemen this spring when the weather warms up around here.
Thanks again to Paul Ton for organizing this great event for our friend Andyson.
Frank
Getting to the final and then beating Dave shows how good a player Jure (mkrizan86) really is. Very, very well played Jure. For the next year you are officially the man!
- THE HINGE AND BRACKET FINAL, FINAL
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