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Post by Paul Tue 15 Aug 2023, 5:04 pm

From these pages forward I or this thread is not affiliated with any WGT CC .

This thread remained in Country Club Corner . Until June of 2023 . When it was transferred to

And Everything Else . It only lasted a week or so until I was banned from the WGT.com/forums for life .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, May 7 2021 8:52 PM
     
     
    NEW COUNTRY CLUB POST . Jan 13 2023 .
     
    RATHER THAN POST A LINK(S) TO MY WEBSITE TO VARIOUS CC OWNERS THAT I SEE THAT ARE ACTIVE THEMSELVES . BUT SEEM TO NOT KNOW THE MANY RESPONSIBILITIES AND FUNCTIONS AND BENEFITS AVAILABLE TO THEM .
    I am going to copy and paste a few excerpts here on this WGT page . No I really do not know why I feel compelled to help them . Just like running a CC . This is time consuming , thankless ,
    And most importantly . My opinions and observations only . Only posted as some possible suggestions that may or may not help or interest them .
    LABEL YOUR MEMBERS FOR WHO & WHAT THEY ARE :
    After you ( the owner ) has assigned the various ranks of your members . By putting some thought into it . And clicking the 3 little dots next to each member on the home page .
    Director(s) , Veteran(s) , Member(s) , Recruit(s) .
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    This is the owners tools permissions page ( this is how they used to look , I don't know if this has chamged ) .
    You can then assign permissions in the 7 categories below .
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    There is also a CC Forum . Can/should be used to provide any and every kind of information about WGT , CC's , Tiering up , lowering ones average , specifics of all CC tournaments , The benefits of building and growing a CC/group/team of WGT online virtual golf lovers . Information about all the playing formats in WGT . What ranked rounds are . All about brackets CC & WGT , CC Stroke Tournaments that are Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play with customizable conditions ( unlike the WGT Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play tournaments that are all default settings and can be very boring . Same tournaments except withe ability to change them up and learn the courses from many variations . ( The single most valuable format in WGT CC Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play tournaments ) .
    The CC forum should/will be the go to place for all CC members to learn about special events , all over WGT .
    A place for all members to share and learn and expand their knowledge . In the process of building and creating one of the most awesome teams you will ever be involved with in your entire life .
    I was just going to copy and paste and here I am typing . Lol .
    CC HOPES :
    The hope for what occurs in a CC is that the very best environment is provided for all members of all tiers to enable them to hone their skills , lower their averages , and move up in tiers , and to have fun doing it with little or no other expectations .
      All that can easily be the case playing in the well made CC tourneys . Friending and learning from and playing matches with all of your CC members .
      By keeping current with what sometimes is critical information posted by various members in your WGT CC Forum .
    FRIENDING :
    Friending a WGT CC member is the same thing as shaking the hand of a team mate . Period . Here in your CC especially . You have nothing to fear from the members  in your very cool CC . Much to gain though .
      First friending a CC members only does a few things .
      1) enables a green dot when available  available only means that their computer is on and are logged into WGT and are not in the middle of a multi player round . Does not mean they are staring at their computer screen waiting for invites to decline .
      2) enables WGT PM messaging ( top of friends profile page not yours ) . Which allows one to communicate to one another . Communicate welcome and interesting messages as there would be no other reason for a fellow CC member to message you .
      3)  Opens a unique and elite pipeline of communication of opportunity bteween the always awsome and interesting and friendly members of your CC that are always more than willing to step up and back you up and help in anyway more than any other place in WGT.
     
      Friending someone in WGT does not disclose any personal information about yourself . Other than you too are an awesome member of your CC .
    A GOOD START :
    The events , the formats , the features , the information , the guidance , the encouragement , the support , etc . Is all in place .
    RECRUITMENT :
    Developing a plan for recruiting members will cause you to ask yourself some very important questions. These questions are basic to just about any recruitment effort. I believe your answers to these questions will be the building blocks for your own recruitment plan. They are:

    Why do you want or need members?
    How many members do you need?
    What kind of members do you need?
    Who is going to find and get the new members?
    Where are the new members?
    When is a good time to look for new members?
    How should you approach potential members?
    What happens if you get a yes, a maybe, or a no?
    What are some obstacles you may encounter? And how do you get around them?

    Who's going to find them? Determining who finds and gets the new members is essential to your planning. You and your staff can plan together the approaches you will use to get the people you need.
    RECRUITERS :

    Don't be shy about delegating responsibility. If you have people available to help you recruit, make those people as useful as possible. Assign different recruitment tasks to different people. Don't just tell all of your people to go out there and get members. That will most definitely waste your time and possibly that of potential members too.
    Recruiters do not have to be Directors or Veterans . You can assign any title that you feel the CC could benefit from . With the agreement of your members of course .
    Recruiters , Tournament specialists ( makers ) for various tiers , human relations , statistitions , CLASH Foreman , etc whatever you want . And they will be official . In your CC only .
    TOURNAMENT MAKING :
    I have a lot of ideas ( outside the box on this subjest ) . But no one says it better than Jim .
    By JimQ916
      Hi all you great members.....hope you're having a great Sunday. I previously posted a few suggestions in the forum concerning the CC Tournament set up that some members liked and some not so much. Taking everything into consideration I have thought about how to have more members sign up and complete the Tournaments they have signed up for. Here are my suggestions


      1) Time period....I suggest a minimum of 3 days (ideally 5) to complete a round / tournament:
    ***I've found that tournaments set up for 3 days or less has numerous members who don't / can't finish their rounds in time. Many members have jobs / family / obligations that prevent them from playing daily and / or even every 3 days so they can't finish in time. There are also numerous other things in our club to do (Blitz / Bracket / Specialty Tournaments) that crunch a members ability to play what they want and consider our CC Tournaments as not a priority (last on the of things to do list).


      2) How many Rounds...I suggest no more than 2 but any amount is up to you
    *** I've found that Tournaments set up for 1 or 2 rounds have more participation and less members who sign up and don't play, or withdraw because of the length. Tournaments set up for 4 rounds have numerous members who play a round or 2 then either drop out or don't have the the time to finish and WD (see #1 above)


      3) Split Tiers....I suggest that most, if not all, Tournaments that are split up for Lower / Upper Tiers draw more people more complete the Tournaments
    *** I've found that "All Tier Tournaments" are dominated by the L - TL's with the lower tier members finishing usually 6th or worse at best. I understand that the "All Tier" set up is preferred by some but the idea of "Split Tier Tournaments (H - TM and L - TL) would allow every member entered to compete against players of similar skills with a chance to Win. I find it frustrating to post a 32 - 33 and get beat by 5 - 6 strokes thus I avoid these "All Tier Tournaments"  with many other lower Tier members avoiding them also.


      4) Green Speeds / Wind / Tee's...I suggest that the green speeds be set up with the default speed used by WGT.
    *** I've found that the green speeds be used in the set up of a Tournament sometimes influences a player to play or not. For the "Lower Tier" Players make the speeds Fast - Very Fast and the "Upper Tier" either Tournament  - Championship. You can choose the difficulty of a Tournament by moving around the tee's and adjusting wind speed. Every so often have a Tournament set up with faster green speed but make those few and far between. I myself, being just a Master, putt on VF greens but also enjoy playing on Tournament greens from time to time and Championship greens and up just kick my butt. Also, take into account the difficulty of the course being played... i recently screwed up by making a Tournament (at Brandon) with impossible green speeds for that course.


      5) 9 or 18 Holes...I suggest that most, if not all, tournaments be 9 hole rounds and not 18
    *** Once again I screwed up when I set up the Brandon Tournament and made the rounds 18 holes and not 2 rounds of 9 each. I should have set the Tournament up for 2 rounds (1st one front 9, second round Back 9) and never gave a thought to all the time constraints of the members (see #1 above) when I did it.


      6) Entry Fee....I suggest that Tournaments be set up for a minimal amount of credits to enter (10 - 20 - 30)
    I've found that the Tournaments that have a "low" entry fee attracts more members than one's that have a higher fee to join, especially in "All Tiered" Tournaments. Also, no pay Tournaments sometimes have numerous members joining or just a couple...flip of the coin. At our CC level we're allowed to have 12 free and 12 pay Tournaments going at once. See where we are in the amount of Tournaments there are but let's try to have 10 and 10 going at once. If we have all 24 set up there's no room for the Bracket Tournaments to be set up nor any other "Specialty" Tournaments, such as the "Starter Equipment" Tournaments.


      OK, that about covers what I feel would be ideal to attract members to join and also finish any CC Tournaments that are set up. I beg all members to consider setting up CC Tournaments and do so anyway you see fit.....these are just things I've noticed since becoming the Tournament Directer and checking each Tournament daily. Once again, these are only my suggestions and not requirements to set them up........Have a great Sunday......Jim

    ^^^^<<<<>>>>^^^^

    I will continue to add various excerpts from time to time .

    GOOD LINKS TO KNOW :

    Country Club Corner

    HOW DO I GET UP IN THE CLUB ?

    https://www.wgt.com/help-flash.aspx#cc

    WGT CC'S . WHAT ARE THEY ?


     





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    pdb1
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    Mon, May 24 2021 6:55 PM
    NEW UPDATE TO THE TRIBUTES .
    To me these tributes I have done . Other awards . Other accolades . Are nothing that WGT would ever consider .So I have done some . All very worthy as I think you might agree . .
      Every 1 or 100 or 1000 that I do . Have it coming . And then some . I'm fairly confident in that .
    Here is a list of some that I have honored .
    TRIBUTES : TO TRAILBLAZERS & ORIGINALS WHERE TO BEGIN
     GOLF WITH FRIENDS
    NOT FROM THE SHORT LIST
    I BUILT THE WALL
    MIA - Where are they?  pg. 42
    THANX TO THE GR8 CC's
    SOME OF OUR FRIENDS DELETED BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
    WELCOMING 1st POSTERS
    HONORABLE MENTION OF SOME WGT KICK ASS GR8's
    REMEMBER THE 19th HOLE ?
    Hall Of Fame Tier
    WGTers PERSONAL KICK ASS HALLS OF FAME(all YouTube videos)

    CHEERS TO OPY
    THE NEXT 6 MONTAGES i DIDN'T MAKE .


    SweetiePie WGT Replays

    COURTNEY01 REPLAYS

    ANOTHER COOL WGT BLOOPER & HOLER MONTAGE CROWNED MASTERS GOLF RESORT


    PART 2 MONTAGE CROWNED MASTERS GOLF RESORT 16 minutes



    VERY COOL MONTAGE OF PINK RAVEN's HIO's

    SOME OF THESE LITTLE SQUIRRELS ARE CHEEKY GIRLS ( REPLAYS )

    TO ART OR NOT TO ART : ASK ANDYSON
    YANCYCAAN FILM FESTIVAL
    KELLY'S KOLOSSOL KRAZY KORNER
    nirvananikkia7x WGT's OWN ROCKERNIKKI STRINGFIELD SHE IS A HIDDEN SECRET
    THE DUGGLES  HAPPENSTANCE IS HAPPENING

    DAVID LANES KICK ASS GALLERY OF ARTDAVID LANE IS VOTSCC VERY OWN RESIDENT FAMOUS DIGITAL ARTIST PLUS . AKA BUDDHA248


    MISTRESS KATARINA
    PINHUNTERS PEAK
    THE PIN HUNT
    CASEY'S GIFT OF GOLF FOUNDATION
    WGT & WGTers COMPILATION OF VIDEO TURORIALS


    SCOTT HOPE'S VIDEO TIPS


    FMAGNETS VIDEO TIPS



    ICONIAN TIPS ON PITCH & CHIP



    YOUNG46 WGT VIDEO TUTORIAL


    INTRO TO ANDYSON's WGT NATIONAL ENQUIRER



    WGT POETRY , QUOTES , MOMENTS , and MORE



    MORE GR8 CLASSICS FROM ANDYSON & MORE


    ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT COLLECTION 2016




    2017 ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT



    2018 ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT


    2019 ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT




    2020 ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT


     

     

     
     

    HARRY AND thelittlemunks

     
     
     
     
     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, May 24 2021 7:05 PM
    Knock knock





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, May 25 2021 6:36 PM
     
    ☮ VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 1f480☮
    Here are some recent lists links and tributes .
    *THANX TO THE GR8 CC's
    TRIBUTES : TO TRAILBLAZERS & ORIGINALS WHERE TO BEGIN
    NOT FROM THE SHORT LIST
     GOLF WITH FRIENDS
    I BUILT THE WALL
    MIA - Where are they?
    HONORABLE MENTION OF SOME WGT KICK ASS GR8's
    9 SHADES OF GREY
    THERE ARE A LOT OF REPLAYS
    " TRAILBLAZER " pic and trophy page .
    " THE THREAD PAGE "
    " FRIENDS & WGT TROPHY PAGE "
    " THE PUTTING PAGE " .
     
    WORD GAMES PUZZLES , GIF's , ETC
    LET'S HELP COMMUNICATE
    HOW DO I GET UP IN THE CLUB ?
    PCEA PLAYERS vs COIN PLAYERS
    QUICK LINKS TO VIDS & TUTORIALS
    VARIOUS GOOD TIPS TO KNOW OR NOT
    MP INVITES ALT SHOT , STROKE , COIN
    WELCOMING 1st POSTERS
    SWING METER CONTROL RIGHT , LEFT , NONE
     
    *TOOK A LONG TIME FOR MY STUBBORN ..............
    *Almost an R1 Thanksgiving
    I MISSED A PUTT & EVERYTHING JUST FELL APART
    *I GOT MAIL
     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Jun 4 2021 8:19 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Jun 18 2021 5:31 PM
    SIMON SAYS
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    BASIC LEVEL AND AVERAGE REQUIREMENTS, AND SATURATION

      You need to play at least 5 ranked rounds as hack to saturate & be eligible for  Amateur.


      When your average score is equal or smaller than 100 you go from Hack to Amateur.


      You need to play at least 10 ranked rounds as amateur to saturate & be eligible for Pro.


      When your average score is equal or smaller than 80 you go from Amateur to Pro..

      You need to play at least 20 ranked rounds as Pro to saturate & be eligible for Tour Pro.


      When your average score is equal or smaller than 72 you go from pro to Tour Pro.

      You need to play at least 25 ranked rounds as Tour pro to saturate & be eligible for Master.


      When your average score is equal or smaller than 67 you go from Tour Pro to Master.

      You need to play at least 40 ranked rounds as Master to saturate & be eligible for Tour Master.


      When your average score is equal or smaller than 63 you go from Master to Tour Master.

      You need to play at least 50 ranked rounds as Tour Master to saturate & be eligible for Legend.

      When your average score is equal or smaller than 61 you go from Tour Master to Legend.

        You need to play at least 500 ranked rounds as Legend to  to saturate & be eligible for Tour Legend. 

      When your average score is equal or smaller than 60 you go from Legend to Tour Legend.
      You need to play at least 750 ranked rounds as Tour Legend to to saturate & be eligible for Champion .

      When your average score is equal or smaller than 59 you go from Tour Legend to Champion .

      You need to play another 1000 ranked rounds as a Champion to saturate .
      When your average score is equal to or smaller than 55 you are eligible to go from Champion to Tour Champion .





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      As per my annual tradition . I have the day off . It is my birthday . For over 30 years . I have taken my birthday off from work . I feel that a persons birthday is the most legit holiday of the year . All the other holidays are either political or religious . Now if I can just get it paid too . Lol .
     
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      It is not exactly the right time of year . But all times of the year are right for good humor . And this is some good stuff . Lol .

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    Fri, Dec 6 2013 9:46 AM
     
     
     
    Twas almost the Night before the 12 days of Christmas Giveaway .
    All the Country Clubs were ready, The gifts from the Pro shop were all under the tree And almost all the days were full .  MrCaddie was burned out from all the silly PM,s and working so hard  . He sat down in his chair and drifted off to sleep .
    Thats when all hell broke loose ,
    The Santas little helpers jimmyed the lock on the bar and started to drink all the good stuff ,They then hooked up the TV to the computer and started to download Elf porn .
    A few of the Santas helpers drank too much then Tossed up Christmas cookies on the floor And one passed out with his head in the toilet  .
    Santas little helpers then found MrCaddies car key,s and went out on the town in a rampage ,They took turns driving to see who could run down the most mail boxes and do the best yard turfing .
    After a bit of that they set his car on fire and pushed it into the lake at the Kiawah island course on hole # 17 .
    As the Santas little helpers were stumbling back to MrCaddies house they saw that the WGT Police were knocking on his door and they all ran to the bushes to hide .
    The WGT police Icon & Shoe could see all the empty bottles on the porch and in the yard and more in the house on the floor throu the window .
    MrCaddie woke from his sleep and said to him self ,  Self just who the .... is at my door at this time of night ,
    He got up from the chair but did not see that the helpers had taken his pants , He opened the door yelling  " Just who the .... do you think you are .
    The WGT police Icon & Shoe saw this man at the door with nothing on but his Tee shirt and could see that there was Elf porn on the TV . The Police did not ask but just clocked MrCaddie with a night stick and put him back to sleep .
    MrCaddie woke up in a WGT jail cell with a very large man , That man then told him , Son your name is now Betty and you are now my Btch .
    A few days latter Santas little helpers all got together and took some of the gifts to the pawn shop and used that money to pay MrCaddies bail .
    When MrCaddie got out he went home in his orange jump suit  to find the place trashed and his car was gone , He then said to him self  ,, Self you know who did this , them little Bstards , I will get each and every one of you even if it takes me till Christmas in July .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Aug 23 2021 1:05 PM
     
      I have become very interested in this new crop of players transitioning from Mobile to WGT.com .This group has become very skilled . Even with their tiering and averages all over the place .
      This is the result of WGT not informing these newer Mobile players of the
    BASICS FOR TIERING AND SATURATION .
      No mention to them about ranked rounds . Or even that they can find information at WGT.com/forums .
      It has created a huge disparity . These highly skilled players are starting to find this missing information that will allow them to lower their averages , tier up properly , and acquire better equipment .
      Once all that starts leveling out . I foresee a huge presence of a new better generation of players . Probably take a few years .
     
     

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      down to about 20 to 30 seconds . It was amazing . There has been a downtime then another downtime and now an update since then . I am sure I have reported each time of the increase in my
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      From 30 seconds , to over a minute . And now 45 to 60 seconds just to pick an opponent . Then anywhere from 2:43 minutes to 3:35 minutes to
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    That's from the second the invite is accepted and the player appears , to the second one of us is on the tee . That is way too long . The opponent is highly likely to attempt anything he or she can to figure out why it keeps spinning . ( i think that is what they are seeing ? ) I wouldn't know I have never been on the other end / side .
      This is a game changer . I cannot logically or reasonably continue to attempt these rounds . I will be coinless in no time . Even though WGT will reimburse some of them . Even that will take longer than it takes me to lose them . Buying coins is way outside my budget .









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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Aug 26 2021 1:21 AM
    New features .
    WGT Forum link to video tutorials
    WGT & WGTers COMPILATION OF VIDEO TURORIALS  ( website link )

    71 video tutorials . From WGTers & WGT . 32 young46 tutorials .
    ALL KINDS OF RANDOM WGT VIDEO TUTORIALS ( website link )
    YOUNG46 WGT VIDEO TUTORIALS ( website link )
    <^^><^^><^^><^^><^^>
    4 links to access links in this forum
    " THE THREAD PAGE " ( WGT Forum link )
    a couple hundred interesting & boring threads of mine and others .
     
    " THE PUTTING PAGE " .( WGT Forum link )
     Featuring 35 putting video tutorials .
     A couple dozens of putting links
     The biggest compilation of putting tutorials anywhere .
     
    " TRAILBLAZER " pic and trophy page . ( WGT Forum link )
    Also with
    Appreciation from the TRAILBLAZERS
    I BUILT THE WALL ( WGT Forum link )
    Which explains

    THE NEW LONG WALL ( website link )

     
    " FRIENDS & WGT TROPHY PAGE " ( WGT Forum link )
     GOLF WITH FRIENDS ( WGT Forum link )
    NOT FROM THE SHORT LIST ( WGT Forum link )
    WGT KICKASS GR8's
    VOTSCC KICK ASS GR8's
    HONORABLE MENTION OF SOME WGT KICK ASS GR8's ( WGT Forum link )
    A Tribute to Casey

    CASEY THE MAN , THE MYTH , THE LEGEND . ( website link )

    VIDEO TRIBUTE TO CASEY AND THE BUSHWACKERS

    ( website link )
    Gift Of Golf Foundation ( WGT Forum link )

    CASEY'S GIFT OF GOLF FOUNDATION Formerly Casey's Make a Wish

    ( website link )

    MIA - Where are they?  ( WGT Forum link )
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Sep 1 2021 5:48 AM
     
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    You are so disliked here you  don't even have a circle. Virtually no one respects your opinion other than yourself. Only the newbies don't know any better. and they all learn  and surpass you eventually.

    @pdb1 wrote

      " If it were to be taken to a vote . If a small fraction of my friends here came out for a vote . Some would if I asked them . That alone would slaughter your votes . In general WGTers would prefer to be left alone . Least of all be bothered by anything going on in these forums .

      But If we needed to . I think we could get a few to vote

      How do think the 500 plus " TRAILBLAZERS" would vote ? A group I duly recognized and paid tribute to in a way That I could truly show my appreciation for the influence so many had on not just myself . But thousands of others throughout WGT . I would likely get props from others that echoed my sentiments . The response from the trailblazers was overwhelming to me . As I received so many heart felt thanks .

      In my efforts to ease the transition of posting in the forums . Which at one point the best a new poster could expect would be to be ignored . The worst or common response was to be ridiculed .

      My 1st Poster trophy's were a way to welcome them in an accepting light .

      And again . Providing them with a trophy . A trophy they likely would not otherwise receive in WGT .

      How do you think the 1st posters would vote ?

      Also recognizing various outstanding WGTers through out the years . Many appreciated that .

      Even random players in thousands of MP rounds . That I would never remember their names . Nor them mine . If they did recognize me . I would get their vote . For simply breaking the ice . And getting them to laugh . In an otherwise depressing and forgettable round .

      You know the .0001 % that I mentioned that are Champions ? There is an even smaller number . .00001 % of forum participants . If you got everyone of their votes  You would still lose miserably . But even just a vote of only forum participants I think could not possibly vote in your favor . If they did ? Still a very small number .

      Now let's talk about CC's . CC members . And CC's in which we played CC vs CC interplay matches with for years .

      Those were some good times . And I having the experience and the ability to initiate and lead big events like that . Gained the friendship and respect for lifetimes from those excellent events .

      Now the big one . As you may not know . I ran a successful and wonderful CC for over 6 years .

      In that time I made many friends . No enemies . Maybe some on the fence . But otherwise all good . I have records of 780 WGT players passing through our CC . Quite a turnover right ? Lol . Yes it was . But no matter . Very few tensions . And very minor . It was all part of it .

      Then there are the 175 WGTers who's WGT replays . I converted to youtube videos . Just in the knick of time before they became disabled . Then made available to them to be viewed forever . That made some people very happy .

      I am still getting PM requests to see if I have any more .

      Even in these forums . I have found many new associates . Players I respect . And respect me back as well .

      So if you want to put it all on the table like you did with the game challenge ? Let me know . Think about it very hard . I don't want to see you go . Let's see if you can overpower your narcissism . And back off on me finally  . Make a smart decision .

      Forget about a vote . And live in peace .

      Personally I really want you to stop . None of what you say is true about me . I don't care if you don't like me . But all of this obsession with false information . And no one wants to hear what I say . Is out of line . And getting old . You don't get any confirmation on what you post either . Other than a couple others with no life to be positive about either .

      No one wants to hear your crap either . No one respects a person who's only goal is to demean others . Did you think you were gaining respect by trashing me all this time ?  In your world . You think that is what should be done ? Do you think you are here to point those things out . That only exist in your mind ? Constantly negative and disrespectful . Insulting and hurtful ? Is this okay with your wife and kids ? Are you a good example to them ?

      This is my last post here . There is no reason to continue . Thus ends probably the single most  enjoyable and influential , also depressing and humiliating experience in my life to date .
      The WGT Universe will carry on . I wish it and everyone the very best .

      Paul





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Dec 31 2021 1:21 AM
      Even though the relief and lack of stress is so nice . Among other things . Since stopping posting in these Forums since the date above . It is not always easy refraining . So many subjects and discussions that I would normally just jump right into .
      By now it's very easy and I don't plan on participating again now or ever .
      I continue to just play Coin Rounds . Still the easiest format to get myself to the first tee .
      Knowing my obsessions with saving various topics .
      I have been able to save the match ups and score cards for over 1200 rounds .
      There were several reasons I started saving them . Mostly to submit all the false forfeits and non started rounds and errors that were sucking up my entry fees . To be reimbursed for those . That is still why . But most of those don't have score cards . So I save every round . The legitimate wins and losses and the false forfeits . Just to have references to what happens in the individual coin games . Not saved anywhere else .
      So any player that has played me could also look it up to see how it turned out . I may have missed a couple .
      If you want to check it out . See these :
    MATCHUPS & SCORECARDS JAN through AUG 2021
    MATCHUPS & SCORECARDS SEPT , OCT , NOV , 2021
    DECEMBER M's & S's
     
    Please everyone have a safe and happy new year .
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    Avinashokka
    502 Posts
    Fri, Dec 31 2021 2:40 AM
    Read the room mate. 
    4 months after your “goodbye” post no one has chimed in to say ‘No Paul, don’t go’.  






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    SamSpayed
    4,598 Posts
    Fri, Dec 31 2021 9:54 AM

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    Please everyone have a safe and happy new year .

    And a safe and Happy New Year to you too, Paul  🥂🍾





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Jan 8 2022 1:31 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteAvinashokka:

    Read the room mate. 
    4 months after your “goodbye” post no one has chimed in to say ‘No Paul, don’t go’.  


      Well Mr genius . That is where you are wrong . I actually had 2 pages of messages from members from all over WGT . Wishing me the best . Many asking me to reconsider .
      Some are names you see everyday . But most and I mean by a large majority . Would never be seen or heard in these volatile forums .
      But you go ahead and take the bait . Believe these knowitalls . Follow them . Praise them . I will just say that they would not know truth if it hit them over the head . But they know that . It is all just a BS game for them . Very negative . An environment I can no longer accept .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Skull410
      Here are some anonymous ( to you ) examples :
    @this guy wrote :
    " I know your above people making asinine comments   ...I for one appreciate  your posts that are both  insightful and intelligent...Not to mention helpful... I knew immediately  what you were doing when you listed the 7/7 update  and WGT's modifications in an "Easier" to view format.."
    @this guy wrote :
    "
    Hey, Paul, my brother!
    Don't be bothered. I know you now. I know you're not one of those a-holes we get to come across in the forums from time to time. No worries, bro. As you can see my reply to it, I haven't taken it seriously. And I meant it when I said I respect your opinions. It might be different from mine at times, but I still respect it as long as it comes from you. Cheers. "
    @this guy wrote :
    "
    Thank you Paul for that insight.  You seem to be the only reasonable one here.  Even WGT staff are basically out to lunch.   I hate to say it, but its true.  "
    @this guy wrote
    "
    many strong defenders here in the forums. I personally like your posts and have taken on both mythanatos and Don on your behalf....so have a few others.
    I said in an earlier post that you shouldn't let them win...you are made of sterner stuff. You have every right to be in the forums the same as they do. 
    I hope you reconsider and keep posting...Smile"
     
      And I could go on and on .
     
      Not to mention exchanging holiday greetings with 65 WGTers .
      Anyway . I am fine and did not and do not expect any support in these forums .
      BTW . Thanks for all your kindness .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Jan 8 2022 1:33 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:


     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Please everyone have a safe and happy new year .

    And a safe and Happy New Year to you too, Paul  🥂🍾


      Thank you Sam . Cheers .
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    Avinashokka
    502 Posts
    Sat, Jan 8 2022 3:35 PM

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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteAvinashokka:

    Read the room mate. 
    4 months after your “goodbye” post no one has chimed in to say ‘No Paul, don’t go’.  


     
      And I could go on and on .
     



    Yes you do rather, don’t you.


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    pdb1
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    Sun, Jan 9 2022 5:20 PM
      That didn't go well . I have now managed to spoil what I feel to be a very cool rapport with one my highest respected members .
      What looked to me like a typical attack on my post . Evidently was not . I am still trying to see the difference .
      That's it for me . Have a good year .





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    pdb1
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    Mon, Jan 10 2022 10:38 AM
      I just have to add something here . Just in case some other than the normal group has been reading any of the BS going on .
      I know they like to say that " Some just like to hear themselves spout dribble " or " just go on and on " . With nothing worthwhile to say .
      Not at all true for me . Not even in the least bit . Almost any topic or subject that I respond to . Is for the benefit of some that may not have known or had not thought of it from that perspective .
      In every case . I am trying to explain in more of a layman's perspective . Non technical but to the point manner .
      With fully good intentions . To be helpful to those that wanted to know . Factual and described in my way . As an opinion of the facts of the topic . A different perspective than is generally presented . But indisputably true .
      To listen to the normal crowd describe it .they  would dispute it , discredit it , demean , etc .
      Because that is what they do . Just like a comedian or a shock jock . Not necessarily believing what they say . Just knowing it gets the type of reaction they are looking for . That is exactly what their intentions are . Nothing else .
      I have been dealing with that and defending myself and what I say for 10 years . Only because it needs to be said . Because most times it is not said . Or told from a different angle .
      I wish it didn't need to be said . But either WGT dropped the ball on the topic . Or someone else is relaying it from one point of view and forgetting about another side of the issue . I fill in that blank .
      I hate hen peck typing . I do not have the skills to be writing any manuals or books . I rarely reread what I was posting . Except to correct errors in the composition , or to go back and find a reference in it . I know it is not GR8 writing . But for all these years . I know that much of it has been helpful to many . Knowing that kept me driven .
      Never did I want to confront my critics . Never have I felt any anger or hatred to any of those that oppose me . I'm just not like that . Not a hater in any way .
      Until this last year . When a couple of new trolls entered the group . It is then that I really felt the hatred and resentment toward me . I had to stop and get away . So I did . Completely . For 4 whole months . It only took 10 whole days upon my return for the attacks to begin again . And from a new source again . And on top of that . They deny their intention . When it is plain as day written on the page . This BS immediately brought out the rest of the pack tn support . So that was the end of me . 10 days .
      I issued a sincere apology . For an uncalled for statement in my post . Not unheard of when I make a mistake .
      That's okay . I already know I don't care about this anymore . I will just play my coin rounds . Be good with that .
      Thank you and play well and enjoy .
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    ct690911
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    Mon, Jan 10 2022 2:51 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteHamdenPro:

    Post removed. It was for Paul's eyes only.


    Then you probably should have sent him a private message...lol
       I don't know what Paul wrote that offended you so deeply, but I do know him a little bit and his heart is routinely in the right place. Wars have been started over mis-reads in communication and forgiveness is divine...maybe a 2nd chance all round?
    ...just a thought
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    pdb1
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    Mon, Jan 10 2022 4:32 PM
      Thanks Colin . Long time man .
      HP . Nothing that has occurred has changed my high opinion of you . My apology to you was for real .My reaction came from an autodefensive trigger that I now know I have .
      I would like nothing better than to remain friends with you . PM's so we could speak freely .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Jan 11 2022 6:12 AM
      I'm going to say again . If you read what I post . earnestly just providing my perspective .
      Despite the thought that I give my opinions and don't accept others . Just doesn't happen .
      There is so much more that there is no chance to fix or turn around . They would never let that happen .
      If and when I make a bad judgement or misunderstand . It is so rare and easily repaired .
      But not allowed .
      I don't start fights . Myself and my posts are attacked . Labeled s h i t . I defend them . And it gets worse .
      Ive been defeated permanently now .
      So you can celebrate that anyway .
      Back to the coin rooms .





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    HamdenPro
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    Thu, Jan 13 2022 3:31 PM
    Over the years, PDB1 has tried to help others and has provided an incredible service by collecting and storing WGT member achievements and preserving milestones, including the preservation of members replays (before they were lost forever).
    No one asked him to do this, he just did. Reasons and intentions are not relevant. Friend or foe, irrelevant.
    What is, the fact that you did all of this, no matter who the member was and whether they knew it or not...for that:
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    SamSpayed
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Jan 13 2022 5:20 PM
      This quite unexpected . Wow what nice and very cool post . HP . I thank you humbly .
      And you are right about

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    Reasons and intentions are not relevant. Friend or foe, irrelevant.

      No one ever intentionally excluded . But not always able to include all deserving .( as the list is just too big ).
      Really mostly done on a whim . It just feels right . And always fun .
      Thank you again HP . Wow .
      More than a whim though . So many areas and achievements . That effect so many . With no one in WGT recognizing these . So I try to . .


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    Mythanatos
    2,173 Posts
    Sun, Mar 6 2022 11:08 AM
    I've said this before but coin rooms are a built in sorter for skill and ability. as you go up in the rooms you start playing better and better people. and see less and less beginners to take advantage of.
    if you don't want to run out of coins drop back down to casablanca  and beat up on the newbies.
    Montreal is still a forward tee room. You have back tee gear and can't progress to the back tee coin rooms. you should ask yourself why that is.
    and the answer isn't bad luck.
     




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    craigswan
    28,596 Posts
    Sun, Mar 6 2022 11:26 AM
    Just play chelsea with starter balls .
    I do .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Mar 6 2022 4:42 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    I've said this before


     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    You have back tee gear and can't progress to the back tee coin rooms.

    I don't agree . I have my rounds posted in my website . I can play and beat TL's , C's , on any day . Once or twice .
    I have skills . I am accurate . I am only 0.2/ft on a putt from many more wins .
    I will admit to randomly careless clicking . And bad luck . The bad luck can happen to anyone . And can last from 1 round , to a month , to a year , or eternity . In my case , this my first time it has gone on for 6 weeks . It will end . Soon .
    I understand your opinion of my playing status . You have been very clear many times . But it is just that , an opinion . Not based on personal experience .
    Most months I finish top 10 in my Diamond 1 . I only know that by looking now and then . I have not pursued ranking in my league . With the exception of a couple months a year ago or so .
    Once I get over this hump . The results will be clear .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Mar 6 2022 6:57 PM
    This is the next round I played . Unfortunately because so many feel entitled to just quit when it is an obvious loss . My certain 3rd hole birdie never got to be played or recorded .
    One more shot for each is not too much to ask . I feel it is an intentional way to show bad sporting . Knowingly disrupting the play . Especially when it is so close to a complete round .
    I know that many do not agree . I play over a dozen dozen rounds per month . So I see a lot of them . Along with the supporters of it here in the forums . Although that thinking is still a small minority .
     
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    Mythanatos
    2,173 Posts
    Mon, Mar 7 2022 7:06 AM
    doesnt accomplish anything to finish the round. You've won already why should he prolong it?plus speeds things along. really no reason not to concede the match once you know you're going to lose.
     
    as far as the above post. beating randoms in tiers means little. Tiers mean little to nothing. Most are manipulated.
    Plenty of TLs and Cs and TCs can't hang in Bellagio. And some Legends will do quite well.
    Trust me. The room you play in tells me your skill level. For any tier, If anyone won't play Tokyo or  Bellagio and they have level 9 and 10  apparel then they suck. They've put the coin room time in and they are held back because they keep losing when they try higher rooms.
    Tier has been rendered meaningless by just about everyone gaming the system. 
     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 7 2022 9:03 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    beating randoms in tiers means little. Tiers mean little to nothing. Most are manipulated.Tier has been rendered meaningless by just about everyone gaming the system.


    I agree . A birdie or an eagle or a good round is the same vs a Master or a Champion .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    Trust me.

    You make that impossible .
    I do respect some of your knowledge .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    The room you play in tells me your skill level.

     

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    They've put the coin room time in and they are held back because they keep losing when they try higher rooms.

    Who is they ? .edited.

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    and they have level 9 and 10  apparel then they suck.

    That is plain wrong . And untrue .
    That is the same as saying that 99.0039 % of WGTers suck .
     IDK about the rest of the  .9961% of elites . But your attitude sucks . It is biased , irrational , and illogical . I have to say that as I know my knowledge , skill level , experience is very much the same as almost all WGTers .
    My statements don't need to be rebuked by you . Nor do they need validation . Instead I would hope to provoke interesting conversations .
     





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    Mythanatos
    2,173 Posts
    Mon, Mar 7 2022 10:49 AM
    not going to get into the random guess on %s game.
    but it's pretty simple logic. if you have back tee gear. are above level 90 and have level 9 and 10 apparel. and your skill relegates you to only the rooms that are forward tees then you're bad. you have every advantage and still aren't on the back tees.
    been doing coin rooms now for a year or so right? down to 500k after having 3.8 mill in coins..  i mean that means you are worse than 55-60% of the people in your room or so,  we aren't talking top point whatever %.
    as i said over and over and over. coin rooms sort skill.





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 7 2022 3:09 PM
    Coin rooms clump everyone together randomly . Whether one strives for the back tees or not . Which most everyone does . And once a Legend . One has no choice anyway . Coin rooms are not a basis for anything other than what you as an elite group with no long term , long time , golfing 9 hole or 18 hole interest . Can see see past your own little group .
    Has no right to have an opinion about any other golfers . The 99.0039 % including myself .
    Stop trying to convince me that I am what you think . You are dead wrong . Nobody asked you . Nobody cares what you think of other golfers .
    Get off your high horse and STFU already . Lol . Wow . As if .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Mar 8 2022 12:09 AM
    Check this out . I was having such a good conversation with this very cool guy . I timed out twice and DQed lol . Oh well . It happens at least once a week .
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    SamSpayed
    4,598 Posts
    Tue, Mar 8 2022 12:54 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:

    This is a 14 month log of my coin progression and the regression leading up to today . With this pattern I will be out of coins today or tomorrow .

    When that happens . I will be done .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Block_12

    Paul, with only 480K coins left (as of 2 days ago), have you considered playing coin rooms with a lower entry fee, until you build your coin stack back up?
    I'd also like to mention that if you log into WGT via Steam once a week, they will give you 10,000 coins each Monday for free.  It's not much, but it can add up over time, and let you keep playing.
    Just trying to help.


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    Smile
     
    Boe




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Mar 8 2022 7:02 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:

    Paul, with only 480K coins left (as of 2 days ago), have you considered playing coin rooms with a lower entry fee, until you build your coin stack back up?
     


    Of course I have. That is the long slow road that I took to get that 4 million coins. That may be what I'll end up doing.
    That 14 months goes back to about 1 million coins. It probably took 2 years to get to that 1 


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    SamSpayed
    4,598 Posts
    Tue, Mar 8 2022 7:55 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    That is the long slow road that I took to get that 4 million coins. That may be what I'll end up doing.


     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    I have skills . I am accurate . I am only 0.2/ft on a putt from many more wins .

    In that case, I'd like to suggest maybe playing some rounds in Shanghai (9 holes / 50K entry fee).  A 9-hole room might work more to your advantage in the long run than a 3-hole room like Montreal, especially with your skills and accuracy.  If you happen to barely miss a putt or two during a 9-hole game, you'll often have more holes to make up for it.





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Mar 9 2022 1:15 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:
    In that case, I'd like to suggest maybe playing some rounds in Shanghai (9 holes / 50K entry fee).  A 9-hole room might work more to your advantage in the long run than a 3-hole room like Montreal, especially with your skills and accuracy.  If you happen to barely miss a putt or two during a 9-hole game, you'll often have more holes to make up for it.

    That's good advice . And I am tempted . . But tonight I started with
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 3_9_2210
    Played 3 rounds and ended with
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 3_9_2211
     
    Went from
    March      16    19
    To
                     21    25
    Although the H2H card says
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 H2h_3_11
    My count is more accurate .
    On Sunday I said

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Earlier today I started a new high speed 5g T-Mobile internet WIFI service . It solved all of my connection discrepancies .

    I had called T-Mobile to order the new home WIFI they had been advertising . They said " Sorry but that is not available in your area yet . But we do have a new Franklin 10 Mobile WIFI hot spot for a reduced price , we can offer you . That you can run on your PC . While you are waiting for the new system to fill your area ". They said this hot spot is very fast . 
    I said okay send it to me . I hooked it up Sunday . I found that if I ran it through my realtek wifi adapter . It had a weak signal . So I deleted it off the adapter and let my Windows 10 set it up . And BANG WOW !!!
    Talk about fast . Faster than my old Cox high speed hardwire ethernet wifi ever was . That I had lost and been missing since 2016 . ( demographics and unavailability ) ..
    As far as any lag or delays or spinning . Nada , nothing , no more . In fact I barely have time to take a screen shot of the match up before the tee . Then store it . Takes 5 seconds . Come back and we're on the tee .
    This is better than I could have imagined . Supposedly the new home system will be even better and faster .
    On my smart TV . No Netflix lag or spin . Bam the movie is playing .
    My website . OMG have I needed this . For 6 years after I lost the hardwire ethernet . I have been struggling there . No longer .
    Even media uploads to the WGT forums are quick as a whip .
    I plan on riding this high back up to millions of coins again . And why stop there ? Lol .
    I also believe that this will allow me to play Alt shot , MP Stroke , and unlimited play rounds .( All of which I had brought me GR8 frustration causing me to stop playing them ) . Without the lag delays and early ended rounds and less or no errors . Lol . If that is even possible . I have heard it is by many . I'll just wait and see .



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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Wed, Mar 9 2022 1:35 AM
    Paul. Your post ^^^ is basically Greek to me, so I will simply wish you Good Luck in your quest for more coins...lol
    ct




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Mar 9 2022 10:45 AM

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    Paul. Your post ^^^ is basically Greek to me, so I will simply wish you Good Luck in your quest for more coins...lol
    ct


    Lol . I think the spelling is correct anyway .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2022 11:25 AM
    If I were to decide I was almost ready to join a group again . It is not easy to pick a CC . What I tell others is to search through Country Club Corner . But that could take forever .
    Plus I have this list I have comprised over the years . *THANX TO THE GR8 CC's . Over 200 CC's on that page .
    Then there are my personal 4 top picks
    Skips Casual Club
    Phoenix Rising
    Future Champs rising
    Virtual Country Club
    Then just another brief list of notable CC's .below that are top notch . ( in no particular order )
    Black Diamond GC
    Pretty Wicked Golf Club
    GOLFlopp
    Cool Citizens Country Club
    Grande Oaks Golf Club
    Trout Slayers
    Bad Moon Rising
    The WGT Alien Ambassadors
    Las Vegas Knights
    Nice and Friendly
    Arnies Army
    The Best Of The AllieCats
    The Evil Empire
    WGT NATION team GOLF
    Live and Let Golf
    Morning Calm
    The Peoples Club
    White Rabbit Country Club
    The Elite CC
    Aphrodite
    THE FOUNDERS CLUB
    THE BUSHWACKERS
    Fair Play Golf Club
    Majestic Mountain
    Pirates Cove Country Club
    THE CHULUOTA FLORIDA COUNTRY CLUB
    Mostly Harmless
    Wooden Tee Country Club
    FANTASY BAY
    MOTOR CITY MASTERS
     
    There are so many more .
     
    Ugh . I guess I'm not ready .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2022 1:25 PM
    It was weird making myself a trophy . It has been years . But crossing the 23,000 POSTS mark . Was a good reason . ( according to craig ) . I do think it is cool . But it has never been a goal . Nor have I ever posted for the sake of building my post count .
    It is an elite group . Only 3 have reached that mark .
    .
    .. VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 23000_11
    YJ 25,827 posts
    . VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Craig_15
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    I think I will make all 3 like this one .
     





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    craigswan
    28,596 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2022 2:30 PM
    yankeejim will always be number one .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2022 3:06 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecraigswan:

    yankeejim will always be number one .


    + 1000


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    HenryKawa
    1,692 Posts
    Wed, Mar 16 2022 10:14 AM
    Paul.  Congratulations for reaching 23,000
    That is quite the accomplishment.   I'm going to try to get my name on one of those trophies, by contributing 10 posts per day.   I will get back to you in 6 years for that trophy.  LOL -  WOW, nice going my friend.  I don't think it will happen for me.  
    Henry,



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    HenryKawa
    1,692 Posts
    Wed, Mar 16 2022 10:17 AM
    Paul.  If you are looking for a CC, please consider the Ukrainian Golf Federation. 
    Thanks,
    Henry.




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Mar 17 2022 12:47 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteHenryKawa:

    Paul.  Congratulations for reaching 23,000
    That is quite the accomplishment.   I'm going to try to get my name on one of those trophies, by contributing 10 posts per day.   I will get back to you in 6 years for that trophy.  LOL -  WOW, nice going my friend.  I don't think it will happen for me.  
    Henry


     
     
    Thanks Henry . It is an overwhelming number .. Just think how many there would be if I tried .
    You have some unique and impressive trophiys already .
    But just that I may post A lot of topics and statements , useless  to some and interesting to .others. .
    But I never cared or made effort to increase  my number,of posts ..

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteHenryKawa:

    Paul.  If you are looking for a CC, please consider the Ukrainian Golf Federation. 
    Thanks,
    Henry.


    Yes Henry I will keep it in mind ..
    ________________

    May the SUN always be with you
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    HenryKawa
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    Mon, Mar 21 2022 4:42 PM
    Thank you Sir Paul!




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 28 2022 9:25 AM
    You know who I miss is DonCaron.
     
    I guess he found greener pastures .
     
    Best of luck to him .





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    craigswan
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    Mon, Mar 28 2022 10:22 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Apr 10 2022 2:40 PM
    This one is going to raise a few eyebrows , to say the least . Some may not be surprised . Some may alrready know . Some could care less .
    It is something I have suspected for a long time .
    APRIL SC's 2022
    Is the link to my April scorecards .
    As usual I notice a discrepancy in the WGT H2H W & L count . Compared to my count . Happens every month . I always took the word of what I rerad in the Forums that they don't count the forfeits . And some other unfinished rounds . I just took it at that . Usually I have plenty of other things to do . Than look up every detail .
    But this month I took a closer look .
    It turns out that every time an opponent forfeits . Or ends the game early when you will see
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    unlike if you leave early when you will see
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    Or on the rare occasion that the game freezes and you are forced to withdraw .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Game_i10
    or here's a new one for you
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Game_o11
    But none of those 3 are happening here . Only the top one .
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    So get this . If either the top one or
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    Is the case . Not only do you not get the win . Nor does the round go uncounted .
    But their loss gets recorded in your loss column .
    No kidding .
    Here are the numbers for April . Click on the link to see the scorecards .

    WGT's count as of this point a 4 10 d

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    Actual count .

    Apr H2H: 43-W 23-L

    Now 5 rounds later



    WGT count as of 4 10 i

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    Actual count

    47- W 24-L
    I had 4 of those wins were outright wins from 36-W to 37-W .
    They are all up there . You can count them yourself .

    What they have done is taken all the forfiets and unfinished rounds by the opponent . And added them to my loss column . Instead of them not counting or giving me the win .
    I have several thousand scorecards . It appears that this has been the case for a very long time .But I am only going to look at April 2022 .
    FYI .
     




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    PureGro1
    1,641 Posts
    Sun, Apr 10 2022 3:43 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Some could care less

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 I-could-care-less



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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Apr 10 2022 6:03 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotePureGro1:


     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Some could care less

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 I-could-care-less


    Well that's true too .
    And this was just an FYI . It matters little to me . It doesn't affect anything that I pay attention to .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Apr 10 2022 6:11 PM

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    20 Jan 2022



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    DonCaron created the Blue Hills CC and Resort country club.

    Yep he sure did . No activity since .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Apr 10 2022 8:59 PM
    MOVED
     
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    Mythanatos
    2,173 Posts
    Mon, Apr 11 2022 7:20 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Some could care less .
    Some could care less about that topic than others
    Some couldn't care less .
    English teachers and grammarians will say that only "couldn't care less" is correct,
    Both could and couldn't care less are informal, and so you are unlikely to use either one in formal writing..
    So I will use both .



    Imagine that. You doing something that's both wrong and doesn't make any logical sense. Then trying to defend it.
     
    also in regards to the coin room win loss ratio. No reason to even care about it. Each person can only see their own score. That is a bad case of OCD combined with narcissism to even bother to track it.
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Apr 11 2022 9:17 PM
    Hey .
    .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quote Mythanatos:

    Nobody asked you .
    I've never been one to " toe the line " , follow rules , conform to society standards . Nor do I kiss ass .
    Nor let any negative , degrading , narcissistic morons have any influence about anything that I do .
    I am so far from any of the terms you have decribed me as for the last couple years . It is completely laughable .
    Although it is visibly sad to everyone that this is what you choose to post . It is desparate , despicable and distasteful .
    If you could only see yourself the way we do . Maybe you would stop .
    You are so far off the mark . I am embarrased for you .
    As far as the topic above . It was just something I noted . Took about 10 minutes to get the results . It was an FYI . Like I said .
    I have completely forgotten about it .
    I am just a burned out hippie . With a beat up broken body from 46 years of hard construction . Now a 22 year Journeyman Electrician .
    Have and still work harder than your brain could even fathom . Trying to limp my way to retirement .
    This game takes me away from the nightly aches and pains . I gather information and knowledge that does not interest you . You let everyone know you have a different take on everything that I say . You can't and don't realize that it may interest others . Tunnel vision with only you in mind .
    You could just as easily pass over anything that i say . I would sure appreciate that .
    Please consider that . Have a good rest of your life .
    Paul
     




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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Tue, Apr 12 2022 6:08 AM
    "I am just a burned out hippie ."
    I'm picturing Paul ^^^ with a tie dyed shirt and a rat tail...lol



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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Apr 12 2022 11:02 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotect690911:

    "I am just a burned out hippie ."
    I'm picturing Paul ^^^ with a tie dyed shirt and a rat tail...lol


    Ran out of tie dyes . But theres a hella more than a rat tail . Back in the day it was more than 3 times thicker . In fact in the early 70's I had a fro about 4 inches bigger than the guy on Room 222 ..
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    twinponds169
    2,966 Posts
    Tue, Apr 12 2022 11:35 AM
    That would explain things a lot, way too many blotter tabs. Been my excuse for ages now.
    But Myth is spot on as usual.





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Apr 12 2022 5:31 PM
    The shortest long winded 1 page post in WGT




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Apr 21 2022 7:05 AM
    1st HIO in a while in coins. WOOHOO !  Then " kinlur has forfeited " .
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    Of course he immediately quit . The correct way . But still ???
    Still 90% of quitters don't use the withdrawal button . No they just leave the game . Causing
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     Maybe 2 of them . Then the forfeit screen . then game fail screen . Sometimes not even getting the achievement points . And definitely no scorecard .
    The only time it saves is for the quitter , the forfeiter .
    The victor , the winner , the victum has to wait a couple few minutes .
    So yes . The loser does have a time cutting advantage . Being impatient , not finishing the round . Getting to his next loss much faster .
    While the good sport pays in lots of extra time . So much that it often ends the sponsor time as a result .
    So I ask ? How does leaving the game early for the loser . To quickly start another round ? Justify it or benefit the game by encouraging this type of non recommended actions ? Causing others game disrupting behavior . Causing  long delays back to the game client .
    Many are happy to cause the opponent mayhem . And could care less about the other player or how smoothly the game runs .
    My 4 previous coin room HIO's ended with a quitter . With no scorecard to screen shot .
    Play well and have fun .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Apr 23 2022 10:50 AM
    Just watched " THUNDERBIRD " shoot a - 14 at the " MERION OPEN " .






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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Apr 23 2022 11:25 AM
    .space for rent .


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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Apr 23 2022 4:22 PM
    .
    USGA MERION OPEN
    CHAMPION
    FMAGNETS -16
    THUNDERBIRD -14
    YOUNG46 -13
     
    CONGRATS TO FMAGNETS
    and all other participants .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Apr 23 2022 5:23 PM
    The above post date is incorrect . This was a blank post .
    pdb1 wrote the following post at Sun, May 22 2022 3:40 AM:


    From 3,759,048 on 1/26/22 . To 419,655 on 3/9/22 .  . The way things were going it didn't look good .
     
    To now 5/22/22 spending  390,570 on
    apparel upgrades , sponsorship rounds , balls  Showdown entry fees , shot pals , putter pals , Along the way .

     419,655
     -390,570
    =  29,085 = starting point

    I have finally built back up to 1,016,065 . 10,000 coins at a time . 5/22/22 .

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    to
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Screen12

    390,570 spent to get to now .

    now
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Screen13

    I am struggling still . Of course I have won more than loss . But I have a tendancy to birdie , birdie , blow chunks . 2 good holes and a bad one . Just not consistant enough for me . A finger fart , or bad math . Or I would win so many more .
    Frustrating and I am losing my enthusiasm quickly .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, May 22 2022 3:45 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:

    I've said this before but coin rooms are a built in sorter for skill and ability. as you go up in the rooms you start playing better and better people. and see less and less beginners to take advantage of.
    if you don't want to run out of coins drop back down to casablanca  and beat up on the newbies.
    Montreal is still a forward tee room. You have back tee gear and can't progress to the back tee coin rooms. you should ask yourself why that is.
    and the answer isn't bad luck.
     


    This and all the other BS analogies you have said about the level of players in certain rooms . Is not even realistic .
    For instance Montreal averages about 40 players at all times . 20 of them are exceptional players . I am probably a 45% player there . That's enough to lose 100,000 at a time . It adds up quick . To say I'm not quite as good as 30 players in Montreal is still damn good .
    Nowadays in Casablanca . Where there are consistantly over 400 Tour Champs , Champions , Tour Legends , Legends , and some very good middle tiers . There are few newbies or begginers there . The bulk of the kick ass coin players are playing in CasaBlanca . It is very competitive .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    You have back tee gear and can't progress to the back tee coin rooms. you should ask yourself why that is.

    My long game is as good as any . 301 average . pinpoint accurate approaches , mediocre putting .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:
    and the answer isn't bad luck.

    And some bad luck . Luck if you make a shot and luck if you don't . I have more bad luck than good .
    We all try to hole every shot we take . Since we aren't skilled enough to do that a whole lot . Then we rely on luck .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMythanatos:

    Plenty of TLs and Cs and TCs can't hang in Bellagio. And some Legends will do quite well.
    Trust me. The room you play in tells me your skill level. For any tier, If anyone won't play Tokyo or  Bellagio and they have level 9 and 10  apparel then they suck. They've put the coin room tim

    Lol you are comparing 30 players that play in those rooms to thousands of TC's , C's , TL's , L's , etc . Trying to say that those 30 players are better than all 0f WGT . But they are an infinitesimal little group of specialists . That are completely insignificant in the count of thousands of elite high level WGTers . That if they had any interest in the coin rooms . They realistically would smoke you all clean out of the event .




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    SamSpayed
    4,599 Posts
    Sun, May 22 2022 5:00 PM
    Wow, Paul.  Mythanatos' post that you quoted was from 11 weeks ago.  Have you really been stewing about what he said for that long? 🙄





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    PureGro1
    1,641 Posts
    Mon, May 23 2022 7:19 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:
    Wow, Paul.  Mythanatos' post that you quoted was from 11 weeks ago.  Have you really been stewing about what he said for that long? 🙄

    LOL...
     
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    Mythanatos
    2,173 Posts
    Mon, May 23 2022 9:13 AM
    Im not going to get into a point by point thing argument with you because as just about everyone knows here;  it's a hopeless waste of time 
    Everything  you posted is because your reading comprehension is horrible. how you interpret what was said into how you think it was said is mindboggling. 
    anytime you want to show me how good you are the bet offer is still good. Match play 18 holes. you pick the course. loser can't post in wgt public forums for a year. 





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, May 23 2022 1:12 PM
    I will address the above another time .
    THIS IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO PROMOTE MY WEBSITE .
    But I just happened to notice that the inaugural tournament forum hit 10,000 views . Not all that many , but a good chunk .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, May 23 2022 1:18 PM
    The answer is YES it has bothered me even longer than that . In whatever thread he first started spouting that crap .
    It bothers me because he is so wrong and narrow minded . As he commonly is .




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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Sun, Jun 5 2022 3:45 AM
     
    Difficult and meaningful will always bring more satisfaction than easy and meaningless..
    Having high expectations can actually ruin your happiness .
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    I’m the one that’s got to die when it’s time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to..
    Our life is frittered away by detail. Simplify, simplify..
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    pdb1
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    Mon, Jun 6 2022 1:31 AM





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    tramilleo
    1,848 Posts
    Mon, Jun 6 2022 4:19 AM
    awesome facts  paul





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Jun 9 2022 7:24 AM
      It has come to my attention ( mostly in PCEA , but in Flash as well ).
      That many still have a hybrid . When they could benefit more with a 3rd wedge and use their 9 iron in place of the hybrid .
      Wedges are so amazing . Remember when Mickleson played Merion with 5 wedges ?
      This is my example of a GR8 amount of wedge utilization .Note the different yardages with each type of shot  .
      There are 4 different wedges and 5 different shots = 20 different possibilities .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 My_ful11
    my full wedges 52 w = 115 yds , 56 w = 100 yds , 60 w = 80 yds , 64 w = 60 yds
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 My_pit11
    my pitch wedges 52 w = 39 yds , 56 w = 33 yds , 60 w = 25 yds , 64 w = 17 yds
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 My_chi12
    my chip wedges 52 w = 20 yds , 56 w = 16 yds , 60 w = 11 yds , 64 w = 7 yds
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 My_pun11
    my punch wedges 52 w = 96 yds , 56 w = 84 yds ,  60 w = 68 yds , 64 w = 50 yds
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 My_flo11
    my flop wedges 52 w = 47 yds , 56 w = 38 yds , 60 w = 29 yds , 64 w = 20 yds .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Wedge_10
    my 52* wedge doesn't really work or make sense for me. 115 is too close to 9 i .
    full  = 115 yds , punch = 96 yds , flop = 47 yds , pitch = 39 yds , chip = 20 yds =  ,
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Wedge_11
      And having this variety helps with amazing accuracy .
      Has it helped me ? Yes . I have a lot of good approach birdees , eagles , & holers .
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Jun 13 2022 4:16 PM
    To tell you the truth I had to do a double take when i glanced past this post . It looked so much like one of mine .
    Very cool . Good job HP .


     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Jun 13 2022 6:34 PM
    FYI
    HOW DO I GET UP IN THE CLUB ?





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Jun 19 2022 10:57 AM
                                                                        FORFEITING
    They just quit , just like that . I can't believe how quick fingered some are . In May I had players forfeit 28 times . In June so far there have been 24 .
     
    It is just plain sad that people got the idea that forfeiting in coin rooms was acceptable . It is not acceptable in sports or in life in general . It is not sporting , not polite , and in many cases not justified . As one may still have a chance to win . There is a lot to be said for the honor in doing ones best to complete any round . And in coin rooms , completing a 3 hole round is not too much to ask .

    The selfish arguement to justify saving time to get more sponsor time for yourself . Is not practical in 3 hole play . One can usually comfortably get 3 complete matches in .
    .
    Sponsor rounds only cost 10 credits to 72 credits anyway .

    If the opponent ends the match by closing out the program and not returning . The remaining player does not get the sponsor apparel rewards .
    Nor does the winner get the win . And as I found out in April . All of the forfeits by the opponent all added 1 more L to my Loss column . APRIL SC's 2022 .

    Or what about the thrill of trying to hit 3 eagles ? Or 2 eagles and a bird ? Or 1 eagle and 2 birds ? Or just 3 birds ?

    Not going to happen with these forfeiters .

    Come on man . Let's play 3 full holes .

    I recently accidentally click on a 9 hole Beverly Hills round . At first i freaked out . Thinking oh no I will only get 1 sponeor round . Then thinking why would I want to play a whole 9 holes that weren't even ranked ? I seriously considered forfeiting . But I could not . Playing a very good Tour Master ( claiming he has the # 1 spot in the Diamond 1 League with 200,000 at that time ).

    It was a very good friendly and competitive round . At the end he won by 1

    We both thoroughly enjoyed the round .
     
    In another round recently . He was a guy from Phx . Originally from Maine . Things were going GR8 . We were tied going into the 3rd hole . His approach was out on the fringe . Mine wasn't GR8 at 5 yds from the hole . But he immediately forfeited . WHAT ? He could have made his chip shot or gotten close . I could have missed my 5 yard putt ( good bet I would have missed ) . And at the very least tied . But we will never know . And the friendly guy from my hometown . Wasn't so friendly after all .

    IDK what the answrs are ? These rounds aren't supposed to be about the W's or L's . Some fight for placing in the Diamond leagues . Some just want to play as fast as they can . If you use more than 20 seconds on the 45 second clock . They tell you they don't have all day . Lol .

    I play to play . That's all . To play the courses , the holes , the very competitive players in the Coin Rooms . To meet new players from around the world . I play to learn . I play to finish the round . Mostly 3 holes . I expect the same from my opponent . Yes I expect that .

    Since technically they are not really " speed rounds " . I think they could find a way to make them count . As ranked rounds . If only in the 9 holers .

    9 holes is a lot of time and effort to not count for anything . But I am sure that would gain a lot of interest .

    It would no doubt be difficult to incorporate in the format as it is . But they could be a new kind of Coin Room .

    Actual ranked Coin Play . 9 or 18 holes ( 9 holes counting double to equal an 18 hole round of course as it already is .now in ranked rounds .

    No special algorythm . Just the regular algorythm  And just the stats . Lowering ones average with better lower scores . Moving up in tier by saturating and improving from there . Doing so enabling access to better equipment . DUH .

    Such a popular lacking format . It should be a crime . And you're busted WGT . Put in the work . And we'll consider probation . I'm not even laughing right now .

    For me , it can and often is enjoyable to play a match where I lose . Like the one below . And many others .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 A_4_2710
    But I also win many . Barely . But I win a hellalot more than I lose . But it doen't matter . 3 holes are a fun but unsatisfying way to keep playing the game .

    If 9 holes were ranked . That would be a different story
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    Win or lose . Matches should be played to completion . Especially 3 hole rounds . IMSO
     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Jul 1 2022 2:19 PM
    Since sometime after Mon, Sep 30 2019 . I have been playing coin rounds .
    Since basically Jan 1 2021 I stopped playing Ranked Rounds .
    Playing exclusively coin games since . Admittedly most of that decision was based on the fact that I could not get a game going in CREATE A GAME or JOIN A GAME . On account of my very poor internet .
    For a couple months now I have again enjoyed high speed internet .
    Now I can get a game in any mode . Easily .
    I have played a few coin games . Upwards toward 5000 of them .
    Starting today July 1 2022 . I am going to stop playing coin games . It is not because I don't enjoy them . I really do . But I feel like there is no real gain . Just coins . I keep gaining in coins . That's it just coins . 
    With good internet . I can play Ranked Rounds again . Where there is a lot to be gained . Lower average , higher tiers , various statistics , bettering my game , etc .
    We'll see how that goes . .
     
     
     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Jul 1 2022 2:32 PM
    For about the umteenth time in 10 years I have surpassed 100 CDP . Lol . A couple times to 120 CDP . and once to 140 something .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 105_cd10
     
    Each time it is only a matter of a few hours up to nearly 24 hours that stopped the streak .
    Back about 4 or 5 years ago when they figured out they could restore a players CDP's . I had them do it a couple few times . But I haven't asked the last 10 times or so it has happened . Not a thing for me .
    So I say " cheers " each time I pass 100 CDP's .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Jul 3 2022 12:47 PM
    Lol . Clearly this was my last coin match . Period .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Last_j10
    Yet I just looked on the game client . And it shows this :
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    Lol . What the hell are they talking about ?
     





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Jul 3 2022 2:00 PM
    I was always suspicious of their W & L count anyway . So in April when I saw a huge discrepancy in what I had counted as wins & losses .
    I decided to keep track .
    What I came up with is shocking . I screen shot all of my rounds . The beginning match up photo . And the Score card . And usually the forfeit screen as well .
    I label all with a W or an L .
    Now I already knew that they don't count the forfeits . But what I found out was that no matter if I forfeited ( which I never do ) or the other player forfeits ( which I have all the screen shots for ) . The forfeited round always goes in my loss column .
    That is how I came up with these numbers .
    WGT's count for April is :
     
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 H2h_4_14

    My count is

    125 - W  77 - L

    The only way I can see that happening is to take all the rounds that the opponent forfeited and not only not give me the win . But put that round in my loss column .
    Even if I am not able to count the extra wins . How do they justify the extra losses ?
    I have all of the rounds

    APRIL SC's 2022

     
    When I contacted member services they said they would look into it . I have asked for follow ups . I've not heard anything .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Jul 9 2022 9:53 AM
    I guess I had to make a post . To get the EN button to work . Lol .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Jul 9 2022 9:53 AM
    Adios anyway .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Jul 30 2022 8:13 AM
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    PureGro1
    1,641 Posts
    Sat, Jul 30 2022 9:35 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Jul 30 2022 9:45 AM
    Don't I know it .




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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Sat, Jul 30 2022 12:58 PM
    july 30th .
    happy birthday paul .
    July 30 is the 211th day of the year .
    154 days remain until the end of the year. .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Aug 10 2022 11:07 PM
    Now for something completely on topic .
    No long rant here . Although more need to get informed . It would take pages and pages for the real facts and devistation and scientific  evidence that is Global Climate Change . But rather than discount it all as fake . Do a little research yourselves regarding the quickly depleting water tables , reservoirs , lakes and streams and rivers . In each and every State in the United States . Some are much worse than others .
    Since most people have their heads in the sand . They will not voluntarily  agree to conserve water on mass levels . Before it is too late . And either we run out of water for anything but consumption ( banning irrigation and the watering of lawns , football feilds , soccer feilds , golf courses , baseball feilds )  . Or God forbid . The Government will have to demand compliance . Despite what you believe . Not even Democrats want the Government telling us what to do .
    Just the water decline worldwide is is on a path to catastrophic perportions .

    Not to mention increased severe wildfires

    More intense tropical storms

    Longer hotter deadlier droughts

    The oceans warming and rising

    More species dying

    Toxic polluted air
    ETC

    There is factual data for all of this and much more . Our complacency will assure horrific conditions for our children and their children . Although most of us will die before it gets too bad . We are guarranteeing the suffering of the next generations .

    So sad to know you think I'm full of *** . You think somebody sure fucked my head up . The truth is that it is serious . .





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    bossbird
    2,074 Posts
    Thu, Aug 11 2022 3:44 AM
    You are correct Paul , climate change is real . We are seeing it all too close to hand in Europe , terrible droughts , wild fires , dried up major rivers. My fear is the politicians in the world won’t unite in time to stop it . Major land masses will no longer support human life and mass migrations will occur. We might not see it all in our life time but it certainly is having severe effects in our lifetime ! 





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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Thu, Aug 11 2022 5:00 AM
    The biggest problem is the major polluters in the world; India, China, etc., have no interest in moving away from fossil fuels.
    ct





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    Shawnskey
    441 Posts
    Thu, Aug 11 2022 5:25 AM
    I've for a very long time was the skeptic and thought everyone had washed their minds but since I had had a license from the EPA for refrigerant or more commonly known free on handling unhandling for my trade which is heating memory keeping ventilating air conditioning and refrigeration and refrigeration I can tell you 1st hand global warming and the depletion of the ozone is in fact real.


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    MojosMojo
    103 Posts
    Thu, Aug 11 2022 6:34 AM
    Baaa baaa.




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    PureGro1
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    Thu, Aug 11 2022 7:09 AM

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    They will not voluntarily  agree to conserve water on mass levels . Before it is too late . And either we run out of water for anything but consumption ( banning irrigation and the watering of lawns , football feilds , soccer feilds , golf courses , baseball feilds )  . Or God forbid . The Government will have to demand compliance . Despite what you believe . Not even Democrats want the Government telling us what to do .

     
    • Nestle should go first
    • Go to the most drought ridden state and take a look at government buildings and their lawns then tell me how much they care about this.
    • Are we talking about the same guberment that declared war on a plant, and are losing?
    • The government always demands compliance and wants to tell you what to do, they dont care what you name the teams.

    The one thing I know for sure is that governments lie, and governments use "Science" to lie. They have done this at every rest stop on the highway of life. 
    If it is really that important to you- Protest Nestle, quit driving, use solar and wind only... BUT leave my wallet and me watering my plants alone.
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    bossbird
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    Thu, Aug 11 2022 8:28 AM
    The western world , Europe and North America have created the biggest problems , albeit when they didn’t know it was creating a problem. The likes of India, China , middle and Far East are just playing catch-up. But of course they know it’s causing a problem and these days have the technology and knowledge to develop more sustainably. We just need the world leaders to work together for once , and great things could happen.




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    PureGro1
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    Thu, Aug 11 2022 9:41 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotebossbird:
    We just need the world leaders to work together for once , and great things could happen.

    I cant disagree with that BUT....Historically that kind of talk has gotten world leaders killed.




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    craigswan
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    Thu, Aug 11 2022 12:01 PM
    True but ,
    China , India and their smaller neighbours manufacture most things the western world needs so they would be cutting their noses off to spite their faces .
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    bossbird
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    Thu, Aug 11 2022 12:08 PM
    Just because governments arnt doing something , chose to ignore , or chose to make more money , doesn’t make it right . It just makes it more likely that the world is not sustainable and future generations will not reap the rewards that you and I have .





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    MojosMojo
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    Fri, Aug 12 2022 8:04 AM
    Lol, we have 0.0 chance to alter, change, adjust anything to do with the climate. All you people who talk about research are hilarious. 
    Even if the whole thing wasn’t an economic scam you still can’t find any credible science that suggests humans have the intelligence to change climate. 
    Just a bunch of feeble brained virtue signalers who have fallen hook line and sinker for whatever the WEF wants you to fall for. Research who they are, they it write down for all to see.
    I wonder why they all buy mansions on the beach all over the world? Lol, as usual they know the sheep and they know the sheep says baaa. 
     




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    TopShelf2010
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    Fri, Aug 12 2022 9:18 AM

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    Even if the whole thing wasn’t an economic scam you still can’t find any credible science that suggests humans have the intelligence to change climate

     
    Remember these?
     
    1976 - GLOBAL COOLING
     
    1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
     
    2000: Children Won’t Know What Snow Is
     
    2002: Peak Oil in 2010
     
    2008: Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
     
    PS: Oh and as far as that ( then ) 14yo POS... if she is so bloody concerned about the "damage" the West is causing, why hasn't she condemned China? How dare she !!!




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    IamNicklaus
    480 Posts
    Fri, Aug 12 2022 1:18 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteMojosMojo:

    Lol, we have 0.0 chance to alter, change, adjust anything to do with the climate. All you people who talk about research are hilarious. 
    Even if the whole thing wasn’t an economic scam you still can’t find any credible science that suggests humans have the intelligence to change climate. 
    Just a bunch of feeble brained virtue signalers who have fallen hook line and sinker for whatever the WEF wants you to fall for. Research who they are, they it write down for all to see.
    I wonder why they all buy mansions on the beach all over the world? Lol, as usual they know the sheep and they know the sheep says baaa. 
     


    I'm all against virtue signalling ...but this is not an example of that . ....Do some research  and see how the environment has changed in the 20th century, versus before instead of talking tosh 





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    craigswan
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Aug 13 2022 2:39 AM
    Good to see some get it . That it is happening . That it is a fully global concern .
    That this earth is doomed . That no one believes that if we as people make efforts to effect change . Because we are the ones that would have to do it . As the world leaders are too blind , ignorant , greedy to be counted on to save the world .
    That only major efforts will only prolong the inevitable .
    Props to those that make the efforts .
    Piss on those that contribute and support the destroyers .
     
    If from the very beginning . Every inhabitant on this earth . Should share a common priority . To make it a goal to respect and maintain and protect and save this GR8 Earth . From birth to ones very last day . ...
    If the earths more than plentiful resources were organized and planned and shared and distributed so that every inch of this earth is thriving and flourushing with agriculture and industry There would never be any famon and starvation .
    This planet should always be thriving along with its inhabitants . .
    Unfortunately our not so intelligent ancestors , the GREEDY Worlds leaders , The corporate overly wealthy elite .
    In their infinite wisdom . Could not , would not , Didn't try to make the efforts to agree to do thier best to help the world thrive . Instead these ignorant *** refuse to listen to much less ever give credit to their " political enemies " ( just the other party(s) . Which not to long ago . Where just the other guys across the aisle . That professionally and respectively were to work together across the aisles to find common ground and come to compromises . Starting after the election of whoever wins . For the next 4 or 8 years .
    But we all saw the hatred and hostillity that these proponents of racism , sexism , white supremacy , and also deep down haters . Now not only refuse to work across the aisles . But are now campaigning to " TAKE THEM DOWN ". Because they are thrreatened by a leftist or liberal or Democratic message . And because of this . Their severly corrupt minds . Work overtime creating false narratives , taking things ouit of context . Because they are masterful deceptors criminals and liars . They are experts in discrediting even Bambi .
    They have innundated the media / press / campaigns / streets and churches with their lies . They have to do this . To take the attention off of them . So that all of their criminal activity , unethical manipulations can be redirected . Before they are caught and imprisoned .
    For every democratic politician that they try and convince us that are criminals . There are 20 hardcore , viscious , corrupt members of the of these accusers . Decades and leagues of high corporate crimes and corruption . And at such higher levels , for so freakin long . Beyond any other entity . Especially the other party .
    This is all the way things are running now . Like a Comicourtedy . Soon in theaters near you .
    Not funny . Serious sad state of affairs .
    Below I will post a few links to help to back up what I am saying . And possibly give you a chance to see how scary things are .
    LINKS / ARTICLES
    HOPE
    SHAME





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    craigswan
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    DirtyDuffer
    874 Posts
    Sat, Aug 13 2022 4:35 AM
    I’ll take Global Climate for 2000 dollars Alex…




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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    For every democratic politician that they try and convince us that are criminals .


     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Because they are thrreatened by a leftist or liberal or Democratic message

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    Thu, Oct 13 2022 9:00 PM
    ..https://www.wgt.com/clubs/

     
     




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    Even after going through the Sorting and Filtering of each Forum and clicking " NEVER " . They are still coming .
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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quote BarelyHuman:
    I have no issue with someone forfeiting, as long as done correctly.
     
    Forfeiting is an improper way to end many games . If not all .
     
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quote BarelyHuman:
    What I do have a problem with is the game locking when a player just exits improperly.
     
    This is the main reason why The " player " should not forfeit . Too big of a risk that the program will crash in one way or another .Always do whatever one can to stay until the end of the round . I mean " Come On " we are talking exclusively about 3 hole rounds .
    Very few " good sports " will exit the game . Even fewer of them will exit properly .
    Therefore a major majority of quitters in this game . Do so with the intentions of causing as much turmoil as possible . Intentionally 
    Hoping that the system and WGT do not recover from their actions . With even less regard for their opponent .
    So let's not put the malice of these cry baby quitters on WGT unfairly and unnecessarily .
    They can control very little of what goes wrong maliciously .
    I think it is more important to drive some sense into these immature , short fused , whiney assed , entitled , excuse for a grown men & women quitters ( because they both do it ) . To grow the FCK UP . Or stay away from anything that runs on power or a battery . IMSO .
    With all the data available in the " Time Stamp " . I know for a fact that they can see exactly which opponent QUIT the game . And how they did it .
    Wgt has this knowledge of God knows how many players that constantly disrupt their rounds . Over and over . They do nothing because of the potential revenue .
    If it were my site . These obsessive repeating degenerates would get 1 written warning . And then they would be gone . BANNED .
    To continue .
    These alacrity killers are doing more damage than one would suspect .
    As has happened with the various multi media programs here in WGT . The massive amount of abuse and improper manipulations by thousands of clueless users .
    And without ANY cleaning , clearing , deleting , defragmenting , etc , EVER . The systems are corrupting badly from the inside out .
    This cannot be denied .
    Similar damage is occurring in the game program . On the premise that protecting all users . Active or not . Game quitters or not . They are protecting potential revenue .
    By allowing the constant crashing of the game by so many violent predators . This too is slowly corrupting the game from the inside out .
    Very serious .
    The reason I can say

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    I know for a fact

    Is because I personally reported accompanied with screen shots . Over 100 of these disruptive players .
    After reveiwing each one . One at a time . And confirming my claims . WGT refunded me over 2,278,000 COINS .
    So besides the damage to the program . And the ever withering reputation of WGT . My 2,278,000 COINS . The thousands of other players that these degenerate players have pissed off and stolen their money . WGT is also suffering GR8 losses from their continued ignorance .
    What if half of the rest of you reported each culprit with a screen shot like I did ?
    BTW these were all entry fees , returned to me . 10,000 coins at a time .
    And were forced to reimburse all of your lost entry fees to you all like they did me . How long would they be able to justify allowing these quitters to continue to play the game ?
    Not long . Negative revenuie has a way of creating action .One way or another .
    Even though they are " only coins " . Spinning ones wheels and or moving backwards is not  a viable direction for any company . While allowing the game to continue its complacent policies in every aspect of the game and management . Is not a good look .
    I'm just saying ....
     



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    pdb1
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    Tue, Oct 25 2022 9:27 AM
    According to that neanderthal . You all are a video game that deserves no honor . He only honors his opponents on the real golf course . Twice a week .
    That statement got a whole thread deleted .
    The worrisome thing is . That he is not the only one that believes that . The good thing is that they are an infinitesimal , quickly fading into nothing , minority .
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    pdb1
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    From the thread  Brackets
     
    Nico
    Is this ever going to be fixed...
     
     
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    The winning player's name from the 1st pair should go into the first box for round 2, and the winning player's name from the 2nd pair should go into the second box for round 2, not as it is in the screenshot.
    This is yet another bug that has been here since the introduction of the PCEA version.
     
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    It is not a bug . Obviously and more than likely  The player " M " ( above ) had a lower score than any of the other 3 . He would then lead the next round of the bracket . This is not a bug . It is automated bracket scoring .
    In the bracket below . I obviously lead that group . Player " S " had the lowest score in the lower bracket .
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    Kittykat2017
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    Mon, Oct 31 2022 4:13 AM
    Don't play them til they fix it.




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    IamNicklaus
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    Mon, Oct 31 2022 4:46 AM

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    There is a growing number of WGTers . Who are finally at their wits end with all of the errors and glitches associated with the ShowDowns

    Anyone stupid enough to be at their wits end over a computer game needs to gain a little thing called perspective .




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    pdb1
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    True that .
     
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Oct 31 2022 7:13 PM
    .Hello Nico .
     
    In your last Q & A I felt there were plenty of good questions . And I neglected to ask any .
    I will take this opportunity gladly . Thank you
    IDK how many this one effects . Buit I know I am not alone .
    This is concerning the WGT Main Forum Automated Email Reply system .
    Rather than the issue being , not receiving any emails . As happens periodically .
    This last time my receiving emails was restored . Oct 13 2022 . I got more than I bargained for . I now receive .
    A) Every email coming out of the Forums
    B) Every CC Corner thread from all the CC's that have a active thread .( never had that before )
    C) Every new post from every Forum . ( never had that before ) .
    D) Forum posts I have replied in . ( default normal ) . And should be the only emails I receive .
    F) There seems to be a consistent rotating resending of the 2- B & C Automated replies . As they continually post . When I open them . There is not a new post . Yes , no kidding .
    Of course I have checked many of the CC Corner posts . Found in every one that I had not ever posted in them . The
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    Is not ticked in any of them .
    As is the case with posts that I have responded in . From my 1st post in a thread . All the way to the end . The
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    Is not ticked .
    Upon suggestion . I went to the Sorting and Filtering section ( for the first time ) and found it all to be normal .
    I then decided to mark in the " send email " block " NEVER " . There was no change at all . So I now know that function does not work .
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    Of course every detail of this has been submitted . I get the weirdest responses
    Hi, 
     
    Thank you for contacting WGT Member Services.
     Since this is a private club thread, you would need to be part of that club to access it and unsubscribe. I would suggest contacting the CC owner and requesting to temporarily join the club to unsubscribe from this forum post.
    Best Regards,
    WGT Member Services
    WHAT ?
    AND
    Hi, 
     
    Thank you for contacting WGT Member Services.
    Hi,
    Thank you for the message and bringing this to our attention. I will pass this information along to our team to look into further. Unfortunately we wouldn't have a way to manually change forum subscriptions. 
    Best Regards,
    WGT Member Services
    WHAT ?
     AND
    Hi, 
     
    Thank you for contacting WGT Member Services.
     
    You can review this information in your transaction history on WGT.com.
     
    To review your transaction history please click on your username located below the Play Now button. Once you have clicked that, click MY ACCOUNT. On this new page, look for Transaction History at the top and click on that, this new page should show you all the transaction history for your account.
     
    You can also follow this direct link to your transaction history: https://www.wgt.com/user/transactions.aspx
     
    I hope that this helps with confirming all the charges that occurred to your account. Please don't hesitate to contact us if the problem persists or if a new problem arises, thank you.
     
    Regards,
    WGT Member Services
    WTH ???
     
    pdb1
    Oct 27, 2022, 5:12 PM CDT
    You know this is in response to informing you that this is a partial list of WGT email Forum responses from Forum threads I have never posted in . That are coming to my email .
     
    WOW . Haven't mentioned any money related issues in a couple years .
     
    Is this a big NO ? I don't think so .
    Nico . This is a mess . Can you please look into it ?
     
     
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Oct 31 2022 9:30 PM
    There are still so many WGTers with no clue about what is going on with advancing in tiers . Including myself .
    But mostly Mobile converts who are still just now learning about WGT.com and WGT.com/forums .
    There are dozens of topics on tiering and averages in the Forums . But most are about the Flash era .
    Basically this is my short take on it .
    In short . Long before the inception of PCEA in 2021 . WGT in their infinite wisdom . Decided to implement a new algorithm for the then predominately Mobile Coin Players . ( Coin rooms now predominately everyone ) .
    This new algorithm is based on God knows what ? WGT is not sharing as usual . Something to do with the number of Coin games played & other mysterious actions . To base the what looks like random tiering up of these many players that do not play ranked rounds and are exempt from established WGT protocol . The protocol that took and is still taking the real WGTers half of a lifetime to progress .
    Is it fair ? No .
    Does it make any sense ? No .
    Will they do something about it ? No .
    Do we have to put up with it ? No . You can quit and never play this awesome game again . As many thousands have done already .  .
    Definition of half a lifetime in WGT.
    If one started playing in their late teens or early 20's . And are now 30 something . And are still trying to reach the upper tiers . That is considered half a lifetime .
    For me starting at 52 and now 63 and still a Legend  . That is only 20% of my lifetime . LUCKY ME WOO HOO ! 
     
    Here are a few more current threads . With some starting in flash and ending more currently .
    Tier up
    Virtually 0 score history and stats, but ranking up tiers ???
    Tier progression
    impossible player rank and stats more and more
    Scoring averages
    Level 90-130 Tour pro's Cheating?
    Mobile players moving up tiers?
    Advancing to a new tier
    Player levels
    Mobile Players w/150 Averages
    WGT Mobile » false averages and tiers
    Cheating and sandbagging
    Moving up in level?
    Tiers
     
    There are many more .
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Nov 2 2022 4:42 PM
    .Check out these invite & messaging threads from 2008  :
    Replying to invites
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    Fuzzygazz
    1,468 Posts
    Sat, Nov 15 2008 12:41 PM
     
    •  Anything on chat rooms or being able to reply to invites when you are playing a game? It would be a nice feature.




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      nivlac
      2,188 Posts
      Sat, Nov 15 2008 1:06 PM
      http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/227.aspx
      http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/275.aspx




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      Fuzzygazz
      1,468 Posts
      Sat, Nov 15 2008 2:18 PM
      Id thought I would give it a bump.




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      PeteBolte
      172 Posts
      Sat, Nov 15 2008 2:37 PM
       Nice bump!




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      dashmanzzz
      8 Posts
      Mon, Nov 30 2009 2:14 AM
      To be able to say you are tied up in a game rather than just Decline an invition sounds bloody rude!




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      Faterson
      2,902 Posts
      Mon, Nov 30 2009 2:22 AM
      You by any chance employed by a cemetery, dashmanzzz?   VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Coze3  That thread is 1 year & 15 days old. More importantly, the fix for this is prominently announced among upcoming features, so we should see it here soon.




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      2,087 Posts
      Mon, Nov 30 2009 11:01 AM
      Thanks for the suggestion, this is on our list.
    • _-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=


     
    Instant Messaging
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    nivlac
    2,188 Posts
    Mon, Nov 10 2008 9:27 AM
     
     
    • It would nice to have the ability to send instant messages to players.  For example, I'll get a invite to play from a friend when I'm finishing up the 7th hole with my current group.  It would nice to be able to say "hey, gimme 10 minutes and we can play."
       




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      WGTalex
      2,087 Posts
      Mon, Nov 10 2008 4:21 PM
      Thanks for the suggestion. We have more chat capabilities coming up in a future release...




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      individual
      16 Posts
      Mon, Nov 1 2010 11:03 AM
      Well its been 2 years since you said the above..have things improved or are we still waiting,,not been here for very long but this idea doesn't seem to have moved on since the last post...an update would be great..

     
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    Interesting as well that so many threads back then were 1 page or less . Or 2 pages like this next one .
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    chat room
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    SERGI0GARCIA
    19 Posts
    Tue, Nov 4 2008 9:06 AM
     
     
    • personally there should be a chat room where we can talk about this to others without w8in for a reply on the forum, also so we can meet new people and chill,




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      tibbets
      1,043 Posts
      Tue, Nov 4 2008 9:37 AM
       
      Good idea.




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      glhadiator
      39 Posts
      Tue, Nov 4 2008 2:33 PM
       
      It would be nice...




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      brillo4197
      1 Posts
      Tue, Nov 4 2008 6:02 PM
       stupid idea
       




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      PeteBolte
      172 Posts
      Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:29 AM
       Good idea.  I mentioned this, I think in an email, to WGT.  It should be at The 19th Hole where you can just enter the chat room and/or go there after a round to discuss the round just played with your opponent(s).  Also the 19th hole could display current tournaments and standings and also be a store for WGT items and golf items in general.
      If it served beer that'd be nice too!
      Pete




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      glhadiator
      39 Posts
      Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:41 AM
       
      That's so funny Pete. I was thinking the same thing. That it would be complete if they could serve up a cold beer. I know some  golfers that play golf just so they can go have a beer afterwards and talk about golf.
      Well, I guess it will never get that real. But let's make a toast to freshly mowed wet grass anyway!
      Glhad




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      Mashedniblick
      13 Posts
      Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:49 PM
       It would also be useful to organise matches




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      rik36
      1 Posts
      Wed, Nov 5 2008 7:19 PM
       hi just joined how much is it a month to play




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      Fuzzygazz
      1,468 Posts
      Thu, Nov 6 2008 10:10 AM
       Ive seen chat rooms right on sites. There is one chatroom on a fishing site I visit. Works great.I think its a great idea. It would be much easier to talk and meet the other players then using an irc client. http://www.everywherechat.com/
      http://www.freechatcode.com/
      Heres a few flash sites that offer it.   GL




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      7 Posts
      Tue, Nov 11 2008 7:23 PM
       a lot of online games including golf games, the members use teamspeak. its free but does require you to have a microphone plugged into your sound card. but you can leave it on during game play and talk to each other.


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    WIGCON
    85 Posts
    Sun, Feb 9 2014 5:57 PM
    I agree 100% with you.
    It is now 2014 and wgt have not listened to there customers yet.
    Imo, it would be nice to have, maybe a lobby or bar area where we can chat openly with our friends with out starting a game.
    I know of some players who have given up playing wgt because of this problem.
    Let's hope we get it this year!!!!   LOL
    Wont be holding my breath....
    Smile
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Nov 3 2022 6:53 PM
    .
    .Just a quick search . The list below is probably 1/3rd of the Chat threads .

    Recent and somewhat recent Chat threads

    chat in head to head not working

    Chat Disabled During Game Play.

    Unable to type - chat / invite

    Chat mode since update

    so why is chat on and off been disabled?

    During a game Chat doesn't work

    chat whist playing a game

    chat section during game

    Chat Bar Not Working

    Chat stops working

    Can't get into the Chat Box

    Not able to chat in coin rooms -

    Multiplayer Chat

    Game Chat Board

    Chat problem continued

    New member, can't chat

    Chat Problem unsolved

    WGT BROKE THE CHAT IN THE GAME

    Not able to chat in coin rooms

    chat stopped working
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    10 years or older

    Friends Chat ??

    Extend the chat

    voice chat with other members -

    Chat with MisterWGT - 9/28 - 2pm PST

    Live Chat Support

    chat enabler

    voice chat and team based games

    chat

    Chat disabled - Bug report submittal disabled - Smoooooth meter .

    FIX THE CHAT BOX!!!!!!!!

    Minimizing game window to chat.

    chat options while playing single player
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    Rude players Chat threads

    Abuse in game chat

    reporting abuse

    The swear filter

    Chat Etiquette

    Rude and vulger players

    Rude players

    rude players

    Foul Mouthed Rude Players
    Foul Mouth Players

    There are very rude people playing this game

    players who are rude to girls

    Abusive players?

    Reporting Players?

    How do I report a rude WGT player?

    showdowns

    I try not to get angry.

    Hurry up dude!!!

    player misbehaviour

    Poor sportsmanship is intolerable.

    glasses

    abusive language and remarks

    Who are the WORST...WGT Members?
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Nov 5 2022 12:02 PM
    .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quote the general consensus:
     
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    I can think of a few .

     
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    Please copy any that you like .
    Here are a couple more .
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    That about covers it . I left out the hate ones .
     





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    twinponds169
    2,966 Posts
    Sat, Nov 5 2022 8:56 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Can someone make sense out of it for me ?

    Yea, let me make sense of it for ya.......
    STFU, MYOB, and go crawl back into your dumpster.
    Absolutely nobody gives a flying duck what YOU, the biggest POS to ever grace this game, may or may not be comfortable with.
    Get a life...... and go fund yourself.
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    twinponds169
    2,966 Posts
    Sat, Nov 5 2022 9:00 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Well i see another post has been removed for telling the truth. Sad very Sad.

    I just told the truth... now be a hypocrite




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Nov 5 2022 9:13 PM
    .That is not my quote you turkey .Either fix it or remove it please .
     




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    twinponds169
    2,966 Posts
    Sat, Nov 5 2022 9:35 PM
    See the last 4 words of my next to previous post.... please.





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Nov 5 2022 9:37 PM

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    now be a hypocrite

    Okay . I give up . How am I a hypocrite ?




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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Sun, Nov 6 2022 1:59 AM

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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Can someone make sense out of it for me ?

    Yea, let me make sense of it for ya.......
    STFU, MYOB, and go crawl back into your dumpster.
    Absolutely nobody gives a flying duck what YOU, the biggest POS to ever grace this game, may or may not be comfortable with.
    Get a life...... and go fund yourself.


    Wow.





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    DirtyDuffer
    874 Posts
    Sun, Nov 6 2022 3:31 AM

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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    Can someone make sense out of it for me ?

    Yea, let me make sense of it for ya.......
    STFU, MYOB, and go crawl back into your dumpster.
    Absolutely nobody gives a flying duck what YOU, the biggest POS to ever grace this game, may or may not be comfortable with.
    Get a life...... and go fund yourself.






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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Nov 6 2022 6:04 AM
    I don't need anything . The only thing I want is peace . Never want to cause turmoil . Even with an unstable troll . I do not enjoy any part of that .
     
    I still don't know what he is going on about . . Whatever he thinks or thought . Has caused him to fly off the handle .
    The quote at the top of this page . Is not even me . It is another person altogether .
    As a result . I have deleted the last several posts . That involved other people .
    If I offended anyone aside from the troll . I aplogize . Never my intent .
    I don't feel a resposibility to save these forums .
    I would like to help though .
    Yesterday I responded to a gal whos post had sat unanswered for over 24 hours . I had purposely left it alone as well .
    The topic was about the online offline status , green and red . . Which I really don't know about in PCEA . Not to mention I didn't know they were colored . I can't tell green from red anyway . Especially little dots like that . 
    But someone had to answer it .I did . And I hope I helped .
    I have a couple threads of my own . This being oine of them . Neither of them do I feel compelled to do any sort of continual posting in . I go days between posting in either of them .
    Most of what I post goes unnoticed . Some opinions are met with disagreement . Nothing wrong with that . There are 8 ways to do something . And they are all correct . Many different agendas . They will not all align ..
    Please enjoy your time in these forums . And in your favorite formats playing this incredible game .
    Peace .
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    I was going to post my last project today 11/17/22 . But I will not .
    I will provide the link to it . Hope you all enjoy .
    INTRO TO WGT POETRY , QUOTES , & MORE
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Dec 28 2022 8:16 PM
    Been seeing alot of different apparel lately .
     
    TravisMathew Swingles Beanie
    TravisMathew Havasu Quarter Zip
    PUMA IGNITE PWRADAPT / Laguna FUSION Sport Shoes
    TravisMathew Cuater Between the Lines Glove


    But I doubt it has anything to do with these guys .
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    2 different guys . What is this ?





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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Fri, Dec 30 2022 9:15 AM
    It's the jack daniels paul . You started too early . Happy new year to you .


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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Dec 30 2022 12:26 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecraigswan:
    It's the jack daniels paul . You started too early . Happy new year to you .



    Naw . Really ?
    HNY 2 U 2 craig .





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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Fri, Feb 10 2023 1:15 PM
    Hole in one prizes .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Feb 10 2023 3:38 PM
    Pearl . Very cool . I guess that's next .
    Don't remember seeing Platinum boxes ( I wasn't really looking too hard ). I got 3 yesterday .
     
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    Gold are very common . Someone commented that Gold were rewarded for beating a higher tier . I don't get them for that  . But for everything else .





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    Sat, Feb 11 2023 12:24 PM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Feb 14 2023 1:47 PM
    Did you know ?
    I went from
     
                       this                          to                     this .
     
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    In some screens WGT mirrors the icon .
    Like this .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Feb 22 2023 11:25 AM
    For a few years there . I thought it was set to never land on 50,000 .
    I'm a believer now .
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Post by Paul Wed 16 Aug 2023, 4:41 pm

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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Thu, Feb 23 2023 1:07 PM
    Magic paul .
    My turn soon hopefully .




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    pdb1
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    Thu, Feb 23 2023 1:12 PM

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    Magic paul .
    My turn soon hopefully .


    IKR .
    Were you doubting it too ?
    I mean , what a relief . Lol .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Feb 23 2023 4:37 PM
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Tenor
    Another Showdown bites the dust .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Feb 24 2023 9:13 PM
    I just blew an invite .
    When I got done with my last round . I looked at the tool bar on the game client .
    I saw
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    See the invites (1) ?
    Lol . Well I never saw that before so I screen shot it .
    Of course I lost the invite .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2023 5:47 AM
    I knew this day was near .
    I can no longer afford to play or buy balls .
    That I will not miss .
    This has come to an end .
    I will miss the forums though .
    The best to all .
    Paul


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    pdb1
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    Sat, Mar 4 2023 11:51 AM
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    There began .
    THE HENRY KAWA & PDB1 SOCIAL CLUB
    Club house meeting # 1 .
    DENNY's .
    2 hour morning breakfast . Full of happy converation . Awesome reminiscing . Joking .
    Like I first suggested meeting at Dunkin Donuts . But then I realized he probably just came from there . Lol . Cop joke .
    We then spent some time praising the good guys and blasting the bad guys .
    All while eating a hearty breakfast and drinking coffee .
    Amazing the rapport we shared .
    Henry is a straight up , stand up , wonderful person . Respectful , polite , honest and even modest , for real .
    So happy we followed through and met up .
    We really had a good morning .
    I'm sure the
    THE HENRY KAWA & PDB1 SOCIAL CLUB .
    Will have meeting # 2 in the future .
    I got an official hometown ( his ) Police patch . Awesome .
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    He flashed his real badge . I immediately put up my arms and said " Don't Shoot ! " . Lol .
    No I didn't .
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    We ended the fun 2 hours .
    I had to go pull some weeds in the yard .
    I think he had a secret Cop meeting to get to .
    He takes a better selfie than I do . I do not like photo's . Never have .
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    Good times for sure .
    Thank you Henry .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 4 2023 12:39 PM
    DON'T FORGET .
     
     

    March 3-4: National Day of Unplugging

     
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Plug
     
     
    At sundown on the first Friday of March, the 24-hour National Day of Unplugging begins. It’s a chance for anyone feeling overwhelmed by all the screens, push notifications, and news alerts that make up daily life to step back from it all and live the way we did in the not-too-distant past. If your personal or professional obligations make the full sundown-to-sundown experience impossible, fret not — even unplugging for a few hours can feel like a breath of fresh air.
     
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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Sat, Mar 4 2023 2:38 PM
    Really glad you guys met up . A start of a good friendship there . Forget the rest you two are the real deal .


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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Sat, Mar 4 2023 4:10 PM
    I echo what Craig said. Whenever someone finds a friend, the world does seem to become a little better for everyone.
    I also agree with Paul...Henry takes the better selfie...lol




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 4 2023 6:41 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecraigswan:
    A start of a good friendship there

     
    I think we both knew we would for a while . Just a matter of the next time he visted Arizona .
    I see Canadian license plates all over the place . But this is I think only the 2nd one I've met .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotect690911:
    I also agree with Paul...Henry takes the better selfie...lol

    Fun fact .




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    SamSpayed
    4,599 Posts
    Sun, Mar 5 2023 9:31 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:

    There began .
    THE HENRY KAWA & PDB1 SOCIAL CLUB
    Club house meeting # 1 .
    DENNY's .
    2 hour morning breakfast . Full of happy converation . Awesome reminiscing . Joking .

    That was really cool.  Glad you two got to meet up.




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 6 2023 6:34 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 6 2023 6:53 AM
    You know I run across a lot of GIF's and MEME's and stuff . I always skip past the before and afters , the then and now's .
    Now I know why . Lol .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 6 2023 11:27 AM
    I've always known that staying out of a CC would likely make it near to impossible to play enough default courses to lower my average to make TL .
    For the last 6 years . I have basically just spun my wheels . My average hasn't moved at all .

    The first 5 of those years . There was no point in even trying . On account that I had a terrible wifi connection . Several different terrible wifi providers . Satellite , mobile services , little device wifi's . It all sucked . I could barely get on and finish a round . Much less play any MP .

    I had much better luck with 3 hole Coin rounds . Still 1/3rd failed rounds . But 2/3rds success was pretty good . I'll take it . PCEA was in full swing . So I played a good amount of Coin rounds and got my playing itch scratched .

    I didn't give up altogether on the default Single Player Unlimited Play Stroke Play rounds .
    But almost . There was something about this new PCEA that just felt too labored . I wasn't improving there . I chalked it up as the wifi's fault .  So I didn't play them much .

    About 9 months ago . June 2022 . I finally acquired high speed ethernet again . After a 6 year absence from it . It became available in my area .

    No more spinning rounds or disconnects . MP is smooth as a babies ass .Error codes and gliches are only seen in Showdowns . And caused soley by opponents .
    I certainly cannot afford a Gaming computer . Not going to even think about that .

    Play in the default mode is good . Except my scores . I was now able to see how similar PCEA is to flash in game play . Somehow doable .

    But still a lot was different . Mostly me . I no longer have that encouraging drive that always pushed me to play more knowing I would improve and soon get to TL .

    Totally lost that . Don't know if I even care to anymore .

    I also almost feel like a beginner playing in the stroke play PCEA mode .
    But not . Inside I know that it is mostly my putting skills that even before had been a problem . I've tried just about everything except a good way to count dots .

    I also keep reminding myself that I definitely could get better scores in a CC with more enjoyable tourneys . Not necessareily red tees . But easier tees and wind speeds etc .

    Recently I glanced at a couple Legends score history's . I saw literally hundreds of 27's , 28's , 29's , 30's . And they were still Legends .

    Felt like I got punched in the gut . Realizing the amount of work I still needed to do . UGH ! Lol .

    So that's where I be .

    Even that was exhausting . Lol .

    Another big decision time .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 6 2023 12:00 PM
    This is that link .

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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotei1488:

    I read the post you linked to pdb1.  just wow!
    I play a lot of coin room games and have also seen these disconnect type popup messages.  All the while I thought it was the other player who disconnected on purpose.  Never imagined that their computer specs (lack of high end ones) could be the cause.  
    Now I'm thinking of upgrading my PC if it helps to play this game.  Would a gamer type PC stop the swing meter from "skipping"?  That is what causes me a lot of headache here.  


    I am not saying that will fix all issues .
    It could only help .
    I think you can stop short of a gaming computer . That's up to you .
    Your computer , your internet quality . Are big factors in reducing many of these interuptions .
    I've had this for a while and am in no hurry to get another . Fairly basic but I have no problems like I had with much lesser models .
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    Quad core .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Specs_10
    Should have a good Display adapter .
    And the top realtech wifi adapter .If you don't have ethernet .
    And a good wired mouse . Cordless are okay . Until they are not .
    That's all the advice I can be sure of .
    I am sure there are many opinions on this .
    I do not know if or how much a gaming computer would help . I would think a lot . Maybe someone will let us know ?



     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteLesthanpar:
    Meter jumps, skips, or just being inconsistent can be caused by a lot of different things. In my opinion the meter speed does vary and that is just part of the game, but a jump or skip is something on your end. If you have things on your pc like an automatic update for windows for example or something like that set up, if that kicks in just as you are swinging it will cause the meter to go erratic. The better pc you have obviously the better, but you do need to be aware of what your pc is running in the background during game play and how it may affect the meter.

    Very good point .Thanks .
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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotePureGro1:

    the game runs/works fine on a phone or tablet...You don't need a gaming computer for this.
    I have seen some glitches that appear to be a hardware issue- I had an old video card that would lock up in change apparel screens. Newer hardware is probably better but if you don't play other games, almost any PC will play this game fine.

    Yes . I had something like that a couple computers ago .
    Thank you .
    Continued from
    WGT, Investigate This Player Please!!
     
     



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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Mar 6 2023 12:16 PM
    A couple things .
    I did mean to suggest computers short of Gaming computers . Just more up to date with more ram , good display adapter . That is what I meant by high end . For us .
     I know from when I had VOTSCC there are many that come and go with lacking computers . And many stay and struggle .And many are out there that need to know that it can be better without a gaming computer . But it is still an investment that might be a little bit of a burden .
    There is a world of difference between what I have now ( above ) . And what I used to struggle with . Big difference .
    I also did not mean to put the causes of the error codes on just my opponents . I only blame the unfinished rounds that gave me a false forfeit on them .
    It may not have even been them . My feeling is that some of it was quitters and some of it was the game . But those were the only ones I reported .
    My unstable wifi at the time was responsible for almost every other problem .
    That's not taking the heat off of WGT for however these all to sensitive glitches are a part of it as well .
    I may have got my entry fees back . Which is good . But all of those rounds remained as forfeits . That is what needs fixing . To prevent that in the future . Which is related if not the same thing that are now being called as intentional cheating .





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Mar 7 2023 11:28 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, Mar 7 2023 9:04 PM
    Furthermore .
    What you said about the game crashing is exactly what happens . If he or anyone tries to manipulate ( whatever that means )?They will not be successful . The game will crash .
    There are other threads that are claiming that games are being manipulated to get wins .
    Manipulation is not even possible . If attempted . The game will crash . No one gets the win .
    Just because one is told that they falsely forfeited . That doesn't guarrantee that the opponent didn't get the same message . I'm not positive the opponent got the win .Are you ?
    Sometimes they have an error code for that .
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    or
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    But these are rare and not even true . The top one , I didn't forfeit . The second one . I would have continued if it let me .
    But I don't care about that . The fact that it can happen is the point . In the meantime I will get my entry fee back on every one of those .
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Mar 8 2023 7:56 AM
    Raquel Welch
    Particularly the one with her and Cher .





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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Wed, Mar 8 2023 8:11 AM
    C'mon paul . I got to champion using exclusively starter balls and beginner putter . Just join a cc and get started . Tour legend will happen easily .


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    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Mar 8 2023 8:23 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecraigswan:
    C'mon paul . I got to champion using exclusively starter balls and beginner putter . Just join a cc and get started . Tour legend will happen easily .



    By the way craig . That is pretty AMAZING . I can't get off the tee much less find the fairway with starter balls .
    It must be luck then . This morning I decided to play a practice round because I was wondering about the apparel effects on my irons .
    I chose Champion tees and Tournament greens . Not even planning on trying to score . Just change my spin on some irons .
    This is how I did .
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    Without even trying . But if it had been ranked . It woulda been in the mid 30's .



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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Mar 8 2023 8:33 AM
    I just got this . And it did .

    WARNING: Email May Cause Butterfinger Cravings!

     


     
     
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    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Mar 9 2023 6:17 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2023 6:25 AM
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    callaghan159
    6,121 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2023 10:08 AM
    Whats with all this BS in this thread Paul. Its about promoting your club that you own or belong to which you are neither. OMG.




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    AnaNikolaj
    501 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2023 12:48 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecallaghan159:

    Whats with all this BS in this thread Paul. Its about promoting your club that you own or belong to which you are neither. OMG.


    In his defense, he was the founder of this club and the reason why it grew, but decided to hand it over on account of a combo of controversy and health issues (if memory serves). So it essentially his baby, but he had to give it up for adoption. 





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    callaghan159
    6,121 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2023 5:23 PM
    Well a lot of his crappy post has got nothing to do with promoting a club---his or any other one.
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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 6:47 AM
    Does VOTS CC even still exist?...I couldn't find it.




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    doylerc
    1,130 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 6:51 AM
    Get your ass back in this game twat





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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 8:26 AM
    The Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC WGT CC is no longer a WGT CC .
    This thread remains as my WGT homepage ..And homepage for my
    Paul


    Please enjoy
    _________________

    May the SUN always be with you

    home of

    https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/ an information and entertainment only website
    It has proved to be very useful . As a place to refer to and store a GR8 many relevant links and tributes . A place to sample edit various graphics and posts . A reference to some of my history and some others as well . And if I choose , a daily comment as well .
    Although this doesn't always work . A place to retreat from negativity .
    I still play every day , Although I cannot seem to string more that 50 or 100 days consecutively .
    In this thread there are links to some original WGT Forum posts . Here are a few
    TRIBUTES : TO TRAILBLAZERS & ORIGINALS WHERE TO BEGIN
    NOT FROM THE SHORT LIST
     GOLF WITH FRIENDS
    I BUILT THE WALL
    MIA - Where are they?  pg. 42
    THANX TO THE GR8 CC's


    WELCOMING 1st POSTERS
    HONORABLE MENTION OF SOME WGT KICK ASS GR8's
    REMEMBER THE 19th HOLE ?
    Hall Of Fame Tier
    WGTers PERSONAL KICK ASS HALLS OF FAME(all YouTube videos) ( website )

    SOME OF OUR FRIENDS DELETED BUT NOT FORGOTTEN ( website ) .


     
    This page has a few more classic links
     
    Also in this thread are copies of some for reference .
    TRAILBLAZER PAGE ( with thank you's )
    FRIENDS PAGE
    PUTTING AND VIDEO TUTORIAL PAGE
     
    BURY THE HATCHET PAGE
    following that post are many inconsequential postings not in chronological order and not of present interest to anyone .
    not in chronological , having many blank posts available . I can come here and copy and paste anything anywhere , most times not relative to any other posts on the page . Timewise or subject wise .

    ANOTHER REFERENCE PAGE .
    There it is .As you can see this still serves as an important link to some of my interests .




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    BogeyOne
    1,935 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 9:05 AM
    Paul. You have my respect.
    Martin




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 9:56 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteBogeyOne:

    Paul. You have my respect.
    Martin


    Thank you Sir .




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    SamSpayed
    4,599 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 10:01 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    The Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC WGT CC is no longer a WGT CC .

    Paul - have you considered starting up a new iteration of the Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC?  
    I can see several benefits to your doing that.  First of all, even if you were the only member, you'd be able to have your daily XP go toward reaching Level 2 (free Putter Pal) and Level 4 (free Shot Pal).  I don't think reaching those levels would take you that long.  Second, having an actual CC would seem to justify having an active thread here in Country Club Corner with that name.
    Just some food for thought.




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 10:03 AM
    IDK if any of you caught this
    But one of the most significant , wonderful , important days of my entire WGT expeience . Came recently .. Last Saturday .
    Sat, Mar 4 2023 11:51 AM
    When Henry Kawa and I met up at my local Denny's . In person , wet met for breakfast . And had a wonderful 2 hours of conversation .
    It was such a rush . He is a hellofaguy . So much more real than I could have guessed .
    A true gentleman .
    Look forward to repeating these visits in years to come .
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2023 6:38 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:

    Did you know ?
    I went from
     
                       this                          to                     this .
     
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    In some screens WGT mirrors the icon .
    Like this .
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    And now the mirrored icon pic is a mirror of the mirror.
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    Lol . Just looks funny . But cool .
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Mar 12 2023 6:13 PM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:
    Paul - have you considered starting up a new iteration of the Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC? 

    Yes in fact I did create VOTSCC . A couple years ago . I then deleted it not too long after . I don't remember the exact reasons . But it had something to do with being moderated .
     
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     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:
    I can see several benefits to your doing that.  First of all, even if you were the only member, you'd be able to have your daily XP go toward reaching Level 2 (free Putter Pal) and Level 4 (free Shot Pal). 

    This is true .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:
    I don't think reaching those levels would take you that long.

    No it wouldn't .

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteSamSpayed:
    Second, having an actual CC would seem to justify having an active thread here in Country Club Corner with that name.

     Lol . You're funny . I already have justification . Not that it matters .
    If you look through these forums . A very large % of topics are not in the corresponding forum . Why start now ?
    But to answer you . There are many reasons . Not the least of which is the wind has been taken from my sails . Which also leads me not give a damn .
    The shot pal and putter pal's are taken care of . Strangely and wonderfully forever now . There are players that , some known and some not . Have been sure to keep me supplied . Once every other blue moon I'll run out and reup .
    Much appreciation for that .
    IDK Sam . There are definitely benefits to owning and running a CC . It is a responsibility , commitment , and mindset . That , I definitely know . But am not allowing myself to go there .
    I am better suited now for the benefits as a member . I think . 
    . A topic I do ponder .



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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Mar 12 2023 8:56 PM
    Daylight Saving Time Begins on March 12, 2023.
    Which means that when this posts it will/should actually be 8:56 PM . Not 7:56 PM .
     
    YES !



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    HenryKawa
    1,692 Posts
    Wed, Mar 15 2023 12:24 PM
    Hello Paul,
    MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL WGT MEMBERS:
    The Famous Paul (pdb1) and me (Henry Kawa) also known as the best WGT Player of all time met in person in Phoenix AZ.  We went for a  nice breakfast and talked about many WGT events from the past, present and future.   Never a dull moment in the entire 2 hour meeting.  Thank you Paul.  Turns out you are an outstanding, honest and caring person.  It was my honor to meet you in person after knowing you for the last 10 or so years in the Forums and speaking many times on WGT.   Can't wait until we meet again next year. 
    Henry Kawa (by the way - I am not the best player of all time.  lol).



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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Mar 15 2023 3:29 PM
    Very unusual to play 4 - 3 hole rounds in a sponsor session . But thanks to a couple quick quitters today . I played 4 .
    The sad part was this poor guy here . The final putt on the 3rd hole . I had already missed . I typed
    gg thx w p .
    He was up 10 - 11 . He had a 3footer .
    He froze up on the first timeout . I think . Because he didn't DQ on the second time out .
    It restarted . He was gone . Gave him a forfeit . If he would have been able to putt he had the round won . But in this case I think he couldn't stay connected . He had a small lag on each hole . But there is no way to tell if the connection failed on his end or on the game itself .
     
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Mar 17 2023 8:09 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteHenryKawa:

    Hello Paul,
    MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL WGT MEMBERS:
    The Famous Paul (pdb1) and me (Henry Kawa) also known as the best WGT Player of all time met in person in Phoenix AZ.  We went for a  nice breakfast and talked about many WGT events from the past, present and future.   Never a dull moment in the entire 2 hour meeting.  Thank you Paul.  Turns out you are an outstanding, honest and caring person.  It was my honor to meet you in person after knowing you for the last 10 or so years in the Forums and speaking many times on WGT.   Can't wait until we meet again next year. 
    Henry Kawa (by the way - I am not the best player of all time.  lol).


     
     
    Glad to hear you had a safe trip home Henry.
    Welcome back .




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Mar 25 2023 1:57 PM
    People ask . How do I handle it ?
    I don't handle it . It is an unhandleable reality .
    And unfortunately it is real .
    It is no problem for me to take it with a grain of salt . To shine it on . To not be bullied/baited  into negative actions or replies .
    I am too numb to it .
    Probably why I don't walk away .
    Wow it is something though . Admittedly even humorous in a sick/sad way .
    My take .
     
    The latest.
    update on the latest .



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    cardkleener
    37 Posts
    Tue, Mar 28 2023 6:46 PM
    I've met a few guys in person. This game used to be a lot of fun. It's really changed. The game is so inconsistent I'm not having fun anymore.  




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    ct690911
    7,068 Posts
    Wed, Mar 29 2023 11:00 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecardkleener:

    I've met a few guys in person. This game used to be a lot of fun. It's really changed. The game is so inconsistent I'm not having fun anymore.  


    This ^^^ is exactly why I don't play anymore.




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    callaghan159
    6,121 Posts
    Wed, Mar 29 2023 11:45 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotect690911:


     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecardkleener:

    I've met a few guys in person. This game used to be a lot of fun. It's really changed. The game is so inconsistent I'm not having fun anymore.  


    This ^^^ is exactly why I don't play anymore.


    I like it, maybe even more than before




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, Mar 30 2023 12:32 AM
     
     

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecardkleener:

    I've met a few guys in person. This game used to be a lot of fun. It's really changed. The game is so inconsistent I'm not having fun anymore.  


    Hi Philip .
    It also can be just as cool . Running into an old CC mate in an MP round . Can be a joyous reunion as well .
    As happened here .
    <^^><^^><^^><^^><^^>
    I keep mentioning how rare it is to play the same player twice .

      It is even more rare to run into old mates .

      This I can say from many thousands of Multiplayer rounds over the last 10 years .

      You will see some nasty and offensive ones . Many ask why I don't turn them in ? It's just not who I am . Doesn't bother me or effect my game .

    MEMORABLE CHATS



      Well last evening I had the rare and exciting chance to play an ex VOTSCC mate . I tried to screen shot the chat between us . I got most of it .

    11/25/21
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    The " ugh's " are my comments on my last shot . Lol .
     
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    Those moments are rare . But so cool . And am always hoping for more to come .
    Also .
    CARDKLEENER 3 KICK ASS REPLAYS

    in

     WGTers PERSONAL KICK ASS HALLS OF FAME
     



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    PureGro1
    1,641 Posts
    Thu, Mar 30 2023 6:38 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotepdb1:
    ....

    Hey Paul- You may want to edit out the guys email address from that last pic. Im sure his spam filters would appreciate it...lol




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    SamSpayed
    4,599 Posts
    Thu, Mar 30 2023 9:40 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotePureGro1:
    Hey Paul- You may want to edit out the guys email address from that last pic.

    Agreed.  Exposing someone else's personal information for everyone in the Forums to see is a huge no-no.
    Still, it's heartwarming that you (Paul) were able to catch up with an old clubmate 🙂



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    25,122 Posts
    Mon, Apr 3 2023 11:29 AM
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    25,122 Posts
    Wed, Apr 5 2023 3:00 PM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Apr 7 2023 3:28 PM
    Lol . Hole 1 the ball never left the tee . It appeared like a mouse error .
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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Sat, Apr 8 2023 2:08 AM
    Three of the tee paul . Or take a mulligan . We have all been there .


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    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Apr 8 2023 4:01 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quotecraigswan:
    Three of the tee paul . Or take a mulligan . We have all been there .



    Well that was a swing and a miss . I appeared to have barely nicked it . It was somehow my bad .
    I just laughed and played through . It was a free tourney anyway .
    I think that was a first time being charged for the full yardage of the hole for me .Especially on the first hole . Lol .
    I have played some 20,000 to 30,000 Blitz a CTTh's in 12 years .
    To me it was rare and funny . Not ashamed . Not complaining . Just took note of it .
     




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    25,122 Posts
    Sat, Apr 8 2023 4:07 AM
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    craigswan
    28,624 Posts
    Sun, Apr 9 2023 3:31 AM
    If i am in a hurry to keep my consecutive days going i play a ctth game but to save time i hardly let the meter start before i hit .
    Sometimes the ball goes 2 feet and it saves time waiting on the ball rolling onto green and stopping .
    I usually manage a score in the thousands away from hole after 9 holes .
    Should make a tournament on this . highest score wins .
    I have seen games on the best of water holes where you need to splash water on every hole to win .



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    28,624 Posts
    Sun, Apr 9 2023 3:40 AM

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    25,122 Posts
    Sun, Apr 9 2023 7:32 AM
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Fri, Apr 28 2023 10:14 AM
    This guy was having fun .
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    Dneirf
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    Fri, Apr 28 2023 11:06 AM
     
    A well documented historical archive of your former country club.
     
    God Bless,
    -Dneirf (Owner - Goals and Achievements - country club)
     




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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Sat, May 13 2023 5:54 AM

     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Icon-quoteDneirf:
    A well documented historical archive of your former country club.

     
    God Bless,

    -Dneirf (Owner - Goals and Achievements - country club)
    Thank you Dneirf .
    <^><^><^><^><^><^>
    Today;s Heartbreaker round .
     
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    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Tue, May 16 2023 1:25 AM
    Another Ace .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 5_16_210
     



  •  VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 U5453491_20230813_005438.jpg?0.167  VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 USA.gif?0.167
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Nation.png?0.167
    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Thu, May 18 2023 6:44 PM
     
     
    minus VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Dropbo10
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Dropbo11
    = .87 GB screenshots deleted = 13 years . Saved 1.31 GB . IDK how many thousands . Several .
     
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Onedri10
    = 10's of thousands .
    Thank God I don't have to sort out my OneDrive . Yet .





  •  VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 U5453491_20230813_005438.jpg?0.167 VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 USA.gif?0.167
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 Nation.png?0.167
    pdb1
    25,122 Posts
    Mon, May 22 2023 12:43 PM
    Another HIO .
     VALLEY of the SUN C C Invites ( a look back at VOTSCC & WGT)pages 40 - the final page 63 5_22_b10
     
    Unfortunately . After this thread was moved here . For the reason that it was in CCCorner and I really don't have a CC to advertise .
     
    Nico and Shamwow were cool enough to let me keep it , but move it here .
    I hadn't posted in it much . But on June 2nd 2023 .
    The same people mentioned above . Banned me for life from the forums .
    For reasons only fabricated by themselves .
    So no one will see this edit . Or the rest of this classic thread . Nor any of my other threads . Whether they be boring , interesting , informative , humorous , etc .
    Nor will you or anyone see the disrupters who framed me and set me up . To make it look as though I was dangerous to the forums .
    Unbelievable .
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