Moderators... Censorship and Cheezenuts

Moderators... Censorship and Cheezenuts  ( WGT Forum link )

• brianusa 187 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 1:03 PM

  Do the moderators do anything but delete threads that show blatant links to cheating?
  What happened to the Cheezenuts thread?
   
  
  
  
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  9,041 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 1:04 PM

  brianusa:
  Do the moderators do anything but delete threads that show blatant links to cheating?

  Yes.
  
  
  
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  WGTpizza 1,656 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 1:28 PM

  alcaucin:
  

  brianusa:
  Do the moderators do anything but delete threads that show blatant links to cheating?

  Yes.

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  brianusa 187 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 2:27 PM

  your reply lack content pizza
  
  
  
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  mrbear1 15 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 2:28 PM

  Why?  Don't you believe it's possible?
  
  
  
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  WGTpizza 1,656 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 2:28 PM

  brianusa:
  your reply lack content pizza

  Do you have any questions for me, other than an explanation of the WGT moderator's job duties, or the location of the thread(s) you refer to? I have no answer for either of those.
   
  Stay classy,
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  brianusa 187 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:05 PM

  The original question asked what happened to the Cheezenuts thread....
  All the Cheezenuts' accounts remain on the system and appear active.
  Did mention of the California AG's office get the thread deleted?
  Do moderators moderate without recourse or accountability?
  
  
  
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  WGTpizza 1,656 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:10 PM

  brianusa:
  The original question asked what happened to the Cheezenuts thread....

  As I just said, I do not have an answer for this.
  

  brianusa:
  All the Cheezenuts' accounts remain on the system and appear active.

  This has nothing to do with the forums, or WGT's moderators. If you want to report in-game cheating, send our support team an email.
  

  brianusa:
  Did mention of the California AG's office get the thread deleted?

  No.
  

  brianusa:
  Do moderators moderate without recourse or accountability?

  Yea, pretty much. You are not a part of a democracy here. There are no "trials", there is no "due process". The moderators make arbitrary decisions which may or may not be explained. This is what you agreed to when you signed up.
  Is there something you are upset about that you would like to discuss? If it is forum related, feel free to respond here, or make a new thread, or send a moderator a message. If you have an issue not relating to the forums, please email our support department.
   
  Stay classy,
  -WGTpizza
  
  
  
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  brianusa 187 Posts

  Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:19 PM

  WGTpizza:
  Is there something you are upset about that you would like to discuss? If it is forum related, feel free to respond here, or make a new thread, or send a moderator a message. If you have an issue not relating to the forums, please email our support department.

  I have and they don't do their jobs of investigating or looking into anything.  Here is their stock response.
  

  Thank you for contacting WGT Member Services and reporting a potential instance of cheating in World Golf Tour. We take accusations of Terms & Conditions violations very seriously and investigate all reported issues. If there is compelling evidence to suggest that a violation has occurred we will take action appropriate to the situation. 
   
  If a player admits to having cheated, we ask that you do one of the following...
  If the admission takes place in the WGT forums, please click the Report Abuse link at the bottom of the post containing the dialog.
  If the admission takes place on their Profile, or during a match, please reply to this email, attaching a screenshot. (If you need help taking and hosting screenshots, please see the post here: http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/14726.aspx)
   
  WGT Member Services

  I was hopeful that forum moderators in addition to moderation also engage in and follow up on reports of "a potential instance of cheating".
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PUHOLINO 1,189 Posts

Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:21 PM

brianusa:
The original question asked what happened to the Cheezenuts thread....
All the Cheezenuts' accounts remain on the system and appear active.
Did mention of the California AG's office get the thread deleted?
Do moderators moderate without recourse or accountability?

 
And yet you're still not being moderated, in spite of persistently breaking one of the major rules of the forums (well, they should all be major anyway, that's why they exist) by calling out players in the open forums. I'd consider myself lucky.
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brianusa 187 Posts

Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:32 PM

PUHOLINO:
And yet you're still not being moderated, in spite of persistently breaking one of t Moderators... Censorship and Cheezenutshe major rules of the forums

I did NOT identify any particular account or country club (in this thread).  In fact _some_ of the cheezenut accounts that exist on the system way well be unrelated.  As I'm not capable of searching for accounts using wild cards, it is impossible to tell how many accounts may exist and/or how many of them originate from the same cheater's den.
 
 


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WGTpizza 1,656 Posts

Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:35 PM

brianusa:
I have and they don't do their jobs of investigating or looking into anything.  Here is their stock response:

Thanks for emailing our support department. So, did you provide the supporting material requested from you? If so, what did they say in response? WGT is not going to launch an investigation unless there is proof of your claim.
In any case, reports of cheaters do not belong on the forums - in any capacity. That is something that will be moderated/removed from the forums. All reports of abuse/cheating must only be emailed to our support department. Please read the posting guidelines if you have any further questions.

brianusa:
I was hopeful that forum moderators in addition to moderation also engage in and follow up on reports of "a potential instance of cheating".

I'm sorry that you were confused. Now that you know that moderators are not involved with these types of reports, I hope you will continue on the appropriate medium.
 
Stay classy,
-WGTpizza


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PUHOLINO 1,189 Posts

Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:50 PM

brianusa:
In fact _some_ of the cheezenut accounts that exist on the system may well be unrelated

Even more reason why you shouldn't post 2 thirds of their name in a thread and call them cheaters. If I remember correctly, leaving clear clues that lead to a player's account (if you're calling him out) is not allowed as well.
I understand your frustration when it comes to dealing with pond scum, I'm just saying that this (perhaps unfortunately) isn't the correct way to do it. We each have our own ways of dealing with "those guys", for example your blogs are within the rules. All you can do is to report them via email, then it's out of your hands (hard to accept that sometimes, but that's life for ya).


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WGTpizza 1,656 Posts

Thu, Jan 31 2013 3:51 PM

PUHOLINO:

brianusa:
In fact _some_ of the cheezenut accounts that exist on the system may well be unrelated

Even more reason why you shouldn't post 2 thirds of their name in a thread and call them cheaters. If I remember correctly, leaving clear clues that lead to a player's account (if you're calling him out) is not allowed as well.
I understand your frustration when it comes to dealing with pond scum, I'm just saying that this (perhaps unfortunately) isn't the correct way to do it. We each have our own ways of dealing with "those guys", for example your blogs are within the rules. All you can do is to report them via email, then it's out of your hands (hard to accept that sometimes, but that's life for ya).

Well said. Thank you, Puholino.
 
Stay classy,
-WGTpizza


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oneputtdavid 1,337 Posts

Thu, Jan 31 2013 8:08 PM

And yet you're still not being moderated, in spite of persistently breaking one of the major rules of the forums (well, they should all be major anyway, that's why they exist) by calling out players in the open forums. I'd consider myself lucky.
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pistonbroke1957 16 Posts

Sun, Mar 5 2017 11:34 AM

I'm finding that the number of hits per ball is drastically reducing. 
Started a9 hole alternate shot game today with a brand new 450 credit Nike
And by the 9th hole it was in the red and 2 shots later it was gone !
Normally they last for several rounds.
Please explain


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ApexPC 3,164 Posts

Mon, Mar 6 2017 8:58 AM

Poor form hijacking a thread.
Very poor form to hijack a thread from 2013.
But.
No.
The number of hits per ball has not changed.


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PhilEStein 1,269 Posts

Mon, Mar 6 2017 12:06 PM

Just the quality of user


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alosso 20,420 Posts

Mon, Mar 6 2017 12:52 PM

Don't be too strict.
He's under beginner's moderation and probably has not found where he can open his own thread - it's limited to those users, and very often, they have to append to an existing thread.