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• SuperKanga 3,628 Posts

  Tue, Jun 28 2016 9:47 PM

  
  15th is a super finish for a CC the size of yours Paul
  Congratulations ... you must be very proud.
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Wed, Jun 29 2016 4:49 AM

  
  
  

  SuperKanga:
  you must be very proud.

  
  
    Thank you Rob 
    Most certainly . It is an indescribable feeling . But this is the 5th time inside the top 25 . And most times in the top 50 . But there are also many other frequent occurrences from individuals and the CC that make this owner very proud on a regular basis . 
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Thu, Jun 30 2016 9:51 PM

  
    25 members is indeed a small CC . Just too small . Not enough to fill many of our fun events . Not quite enough to expect to fill a 16 player bracket in a timely manner . Not quite enough to have a 16 player Interplay team . A good CC has a wide variety of players with many different interests . As we do . 25 active members spread thinly makes for low entrants in events , with everyone playing regularly . When we began we topped out at 90 members tapering down to between 50 and 60 at our best . And now for many various reasons are at 25 .
   
    So recruitment would be the answer to growing and building . Slowly filling the events and increasing entrant percentages . ( notice how i am careful not to use the word participation ? ) Because we have good participation in events . Just to few members . 
    Knowing that good CC members are already in good CC's . And knowing that good CC members often change CC's . Usually from one large popular good CC to another large popular good CC with another group of their friends .
    Recruitment efforts are made by me in the hundreds . Sometimes 100 in a sitting . They are exhausting , thankless , and with no results .
    The easiest list from which to find members not in CC's comes from the Tournament Leader boards . The least likely list of perspective CC members one could ever put together . Consisting entirely of 6 , 7 , 8 year WGT members with from 1 to 6 friends .
    With no intention of ever trying a CC   . Or having already tried a couple CC's with bad experiences that left a bad taste in their mouths . Tainted forever .
    So that list is not a list . 
    Another way is search the Country Clubs . You can type in a letter or a word and get 1 page of CC's that begin with that letter or word . Go down the list look at the roster at the owners stats . You see the owner hasn't played since 8/16/ 2014 . Then look to see if any of the other members are active . Nope no one has played in 2016 . Go back to the search . Try and remember what letter or word you typed in to bring up that page to look at another CC . Click a CC , check the owners stats . Hasn't played since 4 / 13/ 2015 . Look at the other members . Ah ha ! 3 have played in 2016 . but not since February . Go back to the search . Click on another CC . Owner hasn't played in over a year . 5 members have played in May and June of 2016 . Each have played a round or 2 in the last month or 2 . Yay . Ok so now I do the unthinkable . The Cardinal sin . I convincingly attempt to POACH this member . In fact I message and invite all 5 . 
    I am on a roll now . 3 hours later I have invited and messaged 20 of these unlikely perspective members . What do you know ? I don't hear back from any of them . 
    Wait . 2 weeks later in the span of 2 days . 3 different players accept my invites . Which means that they had to quit their present CC to accept my invites . YES . 
    I can't wait to talk to them . I post a nice welcome on their walls . I also post a very nice welcome to each in the CC forum . The rest of the CC members all respond and welcome them in their own accepting and welcoming ways . Makes it easier for novices or others that have no experience with forums or WGT for that matter . ( so I have been told , that this is very helpful . It is a regular protocol ). Eventually one would hope this new member would respond to all of these nice welcomes in their new CC forum . 
    I could go on and on . But I won't . And they don't . They don't respond to me or any wall post or PM . Much less their forum welcome . I continue to politely message and suggest that they message me or ask a question in the forum . Or play a round . 
    I get nothing . A complete waste of time . From the hours I spent the night of the original invite . To the 4 or 5 weeks that i try to connect with them once they accept the CC invite . Amounts to days of my time . Wasted with no new recruits . 
    I need to come up with some more approaches to recruiting that yield gr8er success than the ones I have been trying . Any help in that area is welcome . I am all ears . 
    Recently I responded to an owner advertising to find a new owner for his CC . I suggested that some of his members could possibly find a good home in our CC . I never heard back from him . Guess that's not what he had in mind . 
    But why not . If you are a frustrated owner . And your CC is faltering . Why not refer your members to another CC that has shown an interest . And could handle it . They may like it and be happier and really start enjoying their WGT experience . 
    Luck of the draw is not happening . With hundreds of very good and valid CC's to chose from . The likely hood that our little 25 member CC will even be in consideration is not probable . 
    We are here though . A very good CC at any size . With GR8 members and GR8 events . Offering a very cool CC in which to experience WGT . Please read through the preceding pages of this thread . And see what you think . 
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sat, Jul 2 2016 3:45 PM

  
    Message to
  Ollietrotter
  From:.
  
  pdb1
  02 Jul 2016 @ 3:42 PM
  "Hello Ollie" 
    If you could please message me . We could have a chat and would be happy to accept your CC invite . 
    Thanx 
    Paul
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Tue, Jul 26 2016 8:11 PM

  
      Hi .
      Paul here . We are trying to build our small , strong , active CC .
    I would like to invite you to check out our CC . the " Valley of the SUN Casual Club " . An all tiers CC with just the right tourneys , formats and events and environment to polish your skills , lower your average and move up in tiers . In a friendly but competitive team environment that supports and encourages you . 
    This is our WGT CC homepage .
  https://www.wgt.com/clubs/home.aspx?id=148446
    This is our free and open to all website / forum .
  https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
    Please look around . I think you will enjoy what you see .
    If you have a few minutes . Please read the preceding pages . Click on some links . You might see some things that may interest you . 
    There has been a little excitement ( and I do mean a little ) over the last 6 weeks . On account of our fortunate good standings in the last 3 CLASHES . We have been in the top 25 several times before . But not 3 times in a row in the top 15 . 
  Congratulations! Your club finished 15 in the CC EVENT #26 that ended on 26 Jun.
  
  You've received the following for playing:
  
  Flags: Dice, TeeMarkers: Dice
  
  4 WGT Country Club Passes
  
  Cheers!
  Congratulations! Your club finished 15 in the CC EVENT #27 that ended on 09 Jul.
  You've received the following for playing:
  TeeMarkers: TRex, Flags: TRex
  4 WGT Country Club Passes
  Cheers!
  Congratulations! Your club finished 11 in the CC EVENT #28 that ended on 24 Jul.
  
  You've received the following for playing:
  
  Flags: Flamingo, TeeMarkers: Flamingo
  
  4 WGT Country Club Passes
  
  Cheers!
    Thanx for looking
    Paul
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Fri, Jul 29 2016 9:24 PM

  
      If you are looking or considering a change . Please keep
  " The Valley of the SUN Casual Club Country Club " in mind . 
    This is our WGT CC homepage .
  https://www.wgt.com/clubs/home.aspx?id=148446
    This is our free and open to all website / forum .
  https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
    Please look around . I think you will enjoy what you see .
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sat, Jul 30 2016 2:28 PM

  
   by JimQ916 Today at 11:54
  
    Hi all of you fellow WGT'ers. My name is Jim and I'm currently the Tournament Director for the VOTSCC.
   
    I've been a member of the CC for over 2 years and found it's the best thing WGT has to offer....it's awesome.
   
    Ok, here goes.....I'm a happily married guy (for the past 12 years to my second wife), soon to be 56 years young guy who lives in Kennesaw Georgia (15 miles North of Atlanta), and have for the past 12 years. I was born in Queens NY and my family moved to South Florida when I was 12, and being I was more or less raised there, I consider myself a "displaced South Floridian". I have 2 grown children (Chris 22 and Perri 25) who I am so proud of, and they are pretty much the only good that came out of my 1st marriage (also for 12 years).
   
    I'm a State of Florida "A" licensed water treatment plant operator and worked for the City of Pompano Beach, Florida for, you guessed it, 12 years. I became unable to work in any capacity at all after those 12 years, thus I now am classified as "Disabled" / "Retired". That pretty much sums everything about me in a nut shell...just an ordinary guy with a life I'm happy and thankful for...more than a lot of people can say.
   
    If your reading this, and aren't a member of the VOTSCC, I urge you to take a look at us and you'll see why I'm so happy there. We have a great owner in Paul, a dedicated and very active board of directors in myself (not conceited at all), Cory, Kelly and John and the best / most friendly members any CC would love to have....we are more of a family than a bunch of strangers.We have great Tournaments going on all of the time, including regular CC Tournaments, specialty Tournaments set up by our members (Paul, Arnie and myself), a Blitz that Cory runs and we play daily M - F, 2 Bracket Tournaments (1 Stroke Play / 1 CTTH) going at all times and we are very active in WGT sponsored events such as the Clash, where we've placed in the top 25 for the past few....14th in the last one, which shows you the unity and dedication of everyone our club...us being a 28 member CC and finishing so high all of the time shows the dedication everyone has to the club.
   
    We have an extremely active Forum which most everyone posts in and keeps us up to date on club events / computer tech support / jokes and a bunch of other stuff.
  
    I can go on selling the CC but words really can't describe how I feel about it...you have to see it to believe it. That does it for me....I hope that if you're reading this you give us a shot...nothing ventured, nothing gained!!! I'll see you soon....Jim (JimQ916)
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Aug 14 2016 9:21 AM

  
     I have decided that I will follow suit with some of the other CC's . Like A P A B Country Club! And start advertising on WGT players walls .
  
  
  NEW ADS FOR YOU BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU
  
  Hello . This advertisement is brought to you by Valley of the SUN Casual Club C C . 
  http://www.wgt.com/clubs/home.aspx?id=148446
    
    We are currently a level 12 CC . About 40 players , all tiers , all types types welcome . 
    What we have to offer is a strong base for providing the best environment for WGTers to hone their skills , lower their averages , move up in tiers . 
    We do this by offering a wide range of CC tourneys and custom in CC events . A large selection for many types of players . 
    All players welcome each other in the CC forum . It is our way of shaking hands . 
    We do not require Skype or TeamSpeak . We communicate via the CC forum and PM messaging . 
    No minimums or quotas for anything are required . We trust that you will participate as your schedule allows . 
    XP's are not a focus in VOTSCC . It is optional . If you desire to excel in that format . You are welcome to . Many do . 
    Having a visible presence , an occasional shout out , participation in some CC events and showing pride and ownership in your membership in VOTSCC sums up the typical member . Any less is not acceptable . And more is always welcome and encouraged .
    Every member is equal in every way . Your voice , opinions and suggestions are heard and respected regardless of tier , level , length of membership , gender , looks , religion , ethnicity , or hair . 
    A sense of humor is a bonus for everyone . There is so much more . 
    We extend an invitation to you and your friends to take a look , click on some links and consider joining our awesome community . 
   
     Our WGT CC Homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/home.aspx?id=148446
    
     Our WGT CC CC Corner thread VALLEY of the SUN C C invites
  
     Our open to all informative alluring website https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
  
    Thank you very much 
    pdb1
    Paul
    VOTSCC
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Sep 4 2016 12:19 AM

  
    It is hard to believe that in the last month we have seen our CC grow from 26 to 56 . And then back down to 39 current . before we hit 56 there were about 8 that came and went . Meaning that 38  have come and 25 have gone . gaining 13 . Most of the remaining 13 will not last either . Some play a little . They will likely stay . But the ones that barely play and will not respond to anything will go . 
    I have to believe that we are just having a bad streak . A slump . Not finding the right players for what we like . Not likely we will find many new and or inexperienced players that will like the invites formats . Just players that do everything  else . Which is fine . I have to deal with it . 
    I have had to stop asking players to be available for some multiplayer matches and invites . No one wants to do that any more that I run into . No one . 
    There are many WGTers that I am sure find that hard to believe . Because they are part of a tightly closed nit , network of players that have always just naturally made themselves available for multiplayer and invite matches . Never having ever been without the ability to create and accept on a moments notice . 
    I know because I / we were once a circle of very active members that were available all the time for each other . 16 to 20 players can easily play several matches together every day . 
    Because of a miscommunication amongst a few members and a couple others  And a misunderstanding with a few others . A couple others that just moved on . And a few I removed .
    We ended up with no one that plays those formats . No one . That started about exactly 1 year ago until the first of the year 2016 . 
    Since then there have been at least 6 players that left because they could not get a response to any invites . Another announced that they will be leaving soon today . 
    I am just unlucky at this time to be filled with members that do not like to play multiplayer . There are a few that do like it and admit they are frustrated . But are good members and find plenty of other events to play in the CC . All the current members are awesome CC members . They do lots of other things . Just not invites . 
    I am optimistic always and always hope to recruit members that like multiplayer also . And think that will happen again soon . 
    We are looking for good active friendly all around members . It is a plus if you like invites . 
    So please click on some links . If you like what you see . Come give us a try . We would be happy to have you . 
    Thanx 
    Paul 
    May the SUN always be with you 
  
  
  
  
  
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  Skip380 285 Posts

  Wed, Sep 7 2016 6:46 PM

  
  Good Luck Paul!! Just a friendly bump from an old friend!! 
   
  Be Well!!
  

• pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Thu, Sep 8 2016 5:01 PM

  
   
  

  Skip380:
  Paul

  
  
    Awesome Skip . Nice to hear from you . The best to you my friend .
    Paul
    May the SUN always be with you 
   
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sat, Sep 10 2016 7:27 AM

  
    BTW I finally saw you guys in the CLASH . Very cool . 
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sat, Sep 10 2016 7:47 AM

  
    BTW . WGTers . I am going to change my approach to the recruitment focus in our CC . 
    I will no longer be perusing the available lists of any kind . If myself or one of our players comes across a perspective member . Fine we will always give them an opportunity . 
    I will continue to post and promote in this CC Corner thread . If a player likes what they read here . Of course we would be happy to accept you . Word of mouth is GR8 too .
    It has become obvious that the results of seeking out  prospective players is no longer worth the trouble .
    I still am optimistic that  the word will get around that we are a good solid CC and a good choice for casual active players that also want to be a part of a group of team mates . Friend them play with them . Support CC events . Be visible and proud .  Encourage and acknowledge them the same as we do for everyone ..
    Thanx 
    Paul
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Thu, Sep 29 2016 10:25 PM

  
  
  

  pdb1:
  
   A few openings have surfaced for players from all parts of the world . Still looking for personable members of all tiers . Players that have time to work on their game . Show some interest in various CC events and formats . And enjoy socially playing in interplay CC vs CC events to have fun playing with other CC's . Be inclined to get to know other members . Communicate with them and have time to play some multiplayer rounds . Players that know how to use a CC forum . Players that even might want to have some input in helping to grow and improve a CC with a a strong core and a lot of heart . 
    Of course any or all of those attributes are a good start . VOTSCC offers all of the above and so much more . If any of the described above sounds good to you . Then we could be a very good CC for you . Of course there are hundreds of very good CC's to choose from . But check ours out . You won't be disappointed . 
    I do not demand anything . I ask and suggest 
    I do not require any amounts of CC tournaments or particular mandatory events .
    You do not have to play everyday 
    I do not require minimums .
    You are not required to produce XP's or any that would cost you any money . Please do not turn down the free passes . .
    I only ask and suggest that you register in the CC website . This is a one time thing . This must be done . It is part of the CC and I have many reasons for this .
    I ask that one friends all members in the CC . This is very reasonable and i do not hound you to do it .
    As the owner it is imperative that I have I have contact with every member . That is a given .
    WGT provides a CC Forum with every CC . The forum has many purposes . First and foremost the forum provides information that you must know to be  a member . So it is a given that one must keep current by reading it regularly .
     WGT CC  Homepage
   https://www.wgt.com/clubs/home.aspx?id=148446
    Cool website there only to be used if you have a need to use its many cool features .
  https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
    The name of the CC is " Valley of the SUN Casual Club Country Club " and it is just that . A very enjoyable way to experience your time here in WGT .
  please read the testimonials on the previous pages by other members . there is also much content about what we have to offer and some of the ups and downs of running a CC that wants to be fully involved . There are many types of players at WGT . It is not easy to find the types of members described above . As they would already be in CC's and happy to be there . But I will never stop trying . 
    May the SUN always be with you
  
  

  
  
   
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2016 3:10 AM

  
  
  
  
  
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  ct690911 7,068 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2016 4:32 AM

  
  
  

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  You may not be aware..but this character (Randy) is from an Iconic Cdn show called the "Trailer Park Boys". He was only a part time "actor"...hired for his physical attributes?
  His real job was as a telephone repairman in a nearby city.
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Oct 23 2016 10:30 AM

  
  
  

  ct690911:
  (Randy) is from an Iconic Cdn show called the "Trailer Park Boys".

  
  
    So what you are saying is besides Chris Jericho . There is another famous Canadian ?
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Oct 23 2016 10:44 AM

  
    Derailed my own thread . Well I had a little help . 
    Things are going GR8 in the CC right now . A lot of activity . 40 something awesome members . Regularly winning new Flag and Tee Markers . Making the top 25 in the CLASHES . click here to see . 
     We also have well made CC tourneys , a Stroke Bracket and a CTTH Bracket running all the time . BLITZes , challenges , lots of events . More than enough to keep you busy . 
    If you read the last few pages of this thread . You will get more of an idea just how fun friendly and full of every format we are . 
    Take a look . We would be happy to have you . 
    Thanx 
    Paul
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Nov 13 2016 2:23 PM

  
    Hello WGTers . VOTSCC  would like to invite you consider looking at our CC if you are in the market . Or might be in the future . 
    What we have to offer is a GR8 group of players that are all on the same team . 
    Everyone has a voice and is respected . 
    An environment conducive to honing your skills , lowering your average , moving up in tiers . 
    Playing in the wide variety of tiered and multi tiered custom tourneys . Made by yourself or our expert tourney makers . 
    A Stroke play bracket and a CTTH bracket running all the time .
    A daily Mon thru Fri BLITZ . 
  CTTH skills challenges 
    and other events .
    Well established formats . That offer a variety of choices . More than one can play at one time . 
    Of course the unlimited play format . Makes our CC tourneys . The ultimate practice round . If you utilize the unlimited play restart feature as intended . You can play a course 100 times and only 1 round counts . You can control your average so that it only goes down . And the fun custom formats allow one to learn the courses enjoyably . 
    It takes all types to make up a good CC . We welcome all tiers , all nationalities and countries , all religions and beliefs . Women , Men young and old and LGBTQ . And odd balls and weirdo's too . The more the merrier . Seriously . 
    Please read through some of the previous pages 
   I invite you to take a look . 
  
   Our homepage  http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx 
  
    Our website
  https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
    
    Our CC Corner thread
  
  VALLEY of the SUN C C invites
  
    Thank you 
  
    Paul
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Tue, Nov 15 2016 8:56 PM

  
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• ayenys 20 Posts

  Tue, Nov 15 2016 10:07 PM

  
  Hi my name is Jen, stumbled on this thread and am so impressed with your tenacity. I am still amateur level and have not accepted any CC or blind friend invites yet.....was waiting to reach at least pro level before I do. Are you still accepting lower tier members? If yes, would I be a  minority? Your posts seem to suggest that your core group of players are higher tiered. I am a very casual player ( spare time an issue) but I am trying to get a few games a week in ( usually late night). Let me know. Thanks, J.
  
  
  
  
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  JasCooper 528 Posts

  Sun, Nov 27 2016 8:21 PM

  
  Paul,
  Thanks for the offer, and standing up to JimBog. He may know how to play golf, but not much about diplomacy or tolerance of other's opinions.
  im currently in a small club that seems to favor WGT mobile app, so I fit in nicely. But I'll certainly keep you and this club in mind should the situation ever change.
  Regards,
  JasCooper
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sun, Nov 27 2016 9:02 PM

  
    Hello Jas 
    Thank you for the response . Happy to defend the bullied and ones who's words they twist . And the voices of reason who never get heard . I am often shut down myself . But not without a fight .
    That is good that you have found a good CC . There are many . The best to you . 
   
    Paul
    May the SUN always be with you
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Fri, Dec 30 2016 5:31 PM

  
    It certainly has been a while . 
    I hope everyones Christmas went well . 
    I would like to wish everyone a safe and Happy New Year . Let's make 2017 an epic and GR8 year .  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

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  SChoitz 824 Posts

  Sun, Jan 15 2017 7:09 AM

  
  For someone looking for a great CC to join, this would be it!  I was in a larger but defunct CC with no communication and nothing to do but learn on my own.  pdb1 sent me an invitation and things changed.  Communication.. Country Club Tournaments... tips, hints, tricks, advice by others that have been through it.
  I went from rarely playing at a L30 Amateur to a daily playing L80 Tour Master in 3 months.  Great bunch of people.. Come and join the fun!
  
  
  
  
  
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  Mca19670 2,653 Posts

  Sun, Jan 15 2017 1:51 PM

  
  Been a member of Valley of the Sun Casual Club for around 5 months now. When my previous club was struggling for active members a merge with VOTSCC was an option we were all given. I enjoyed my old club. There was around 40 members in it although maybe only around 8 were active. But I prefer smaller clubs. There's a more togetherness feel about smaller clubs I think than a club that has 250 members. That's my personal opinion anyway. So when Pdb1 (Paul) invited me I was happy to join his club. How glad I did. As I type this we have 38 solid members. I've probably been in contact with at least 2 thirds of them. There's all types of tournaments to suit all tiers. Too many for me sometimes. Lol. And if you shoot a bad score 1 day there's never any teasing, just encouragement. In fact my games improved rapidly in the past 5 months. The club shows its togetherness in every CC Clash also,finishing usually in the Top 40 most clashes. For a small club, that is a tremendous achievement. Last but not least, the club is in great hands under Paul and the other directors I may add. Paul must spend 25 hrs a day running this club. The work that man does is something else. If you don't believe me, check out the club website. Yes we have our own website with bundles of info on it. All he asks is for a little communication, play some CC tournaments, but most of all have fun. So come on, give it a go.
  
  
  
  
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  Next260 2,159 Posts

  Mon, Jan 16 2017 3:50 PM

  
  I was recruited from a dead club.
  I checked Valleyofthesuncc.com and read quite a few posts before deciding.
  I am very happy I made the change.
  Just check it out , what do you have to lose?
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sat, Jan 21 2017 5:39 PM

  
    Those are GR8 posts Scott , Martin and Ron . Thank you guys . That is just what this thread needs . Some good testimonials . So those who pass by can read and see the versatility we have . From different points of view . 
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 25,122 Posts

  Sat, Jan 21 2017 6:52 PM

  
  
  

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    One of the hardest things to do here in WGT . Is find good prospective CC members 
    There is no way for good members that are not in CC's to be identified .
    The only place that one can view and see players not in CC's . Is in the WGT Tournament Leader Boards . Those players are the least prospective players in all of WGT . It is unbelievable . Literally hundreds upon hundreds of 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 year players there . That all they have ever done was play WGT tournaments . You are lucky if one of them has more than 2 friends after 9 years . Some have already tried CC's and had bad results . But most of them won't even say boo . 
    We have had several accept my invites and try things out for a while . Most would never reply to me and eventually I had to remove them . 
    Other than that there is no way to find players not in CC's . 
    Until recently ( like 6 months ago ) A couple of my friends sent me a couple lists of CC's where the owner had abandoned the CC's some time ago . Not making proper arrangements for some one to carry on with the ownership . 
    These CC's are left with no leadership , guidance , assistance . No way for recruits to become members . No way to find out information . They don't know about the main forums and barely know they have a CC forum . Most cases not used at all . 
    There are literally hundreds of CC's like this with thousands of members that are stuck like Chuck . And just think it is normal . 
    When I find out about one these CC's . I go to their homepage and scroll through the memberlist . I first look to see if anyone has played today or within a week from the current date . There are usually some . I will only click on those . And look to be sure that the last played date is correct . Most times not . They had evidently friended someone that day or something , bought some balls , etc.  But they would be the most active members in that CC . I only invite those . With a message and an invite to join VOTSCC . They would be the players below our memberlist on the homepage . 
    Scott , Martin , and Ron each came from a similar type scenario . I think Scott and Ron got random messages on their wall explaining that I had the answer to all their troubles . And of course when Martins CC folded . His owner at the time graciously recommended VOTSCC to his ex members . 
    But no matter where they are from or what their circumstances are . There are very few that actually like it enough here to communicate just a little so they can stay .
    Take a look at these recruiting efforts in one month .   1 MONTH OF INVITES . 
    Only a couple responded and eventually faded away . That is just one month a very busy month . But there have been easily 20 or 30 months with almost as many invites . 
    The amount would be mind boggling . I don't even think about it . But it does show that recruiting is extremely difficult for some like me / us . 
    Others don't even try and new members seem to flock to them .
    Oh and go figure this out . Those abandoned CC's with no hope . get new members almost daily if not weekly . Absolutely no recruitment efforts at all . 
    So I have come to conclude that basically any or most WGT players that are good CC member types . Are already in CC's . And even they are likely to change to another very popular large CC that they are familiar with and or have friends in . And do that several times . Which would tend to put us out of contention for those who just jump to popular CC's .
    I believe it is just the luck of the draw . We have not had our number picked in the LUCKY WHEEL OF FORTUNE IN THE SKY yet . But we will . Some day . And be flooded with GR8 potential CC members . Until then . It ain't happenin .

  
  
  

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  pdb1 12,036 Posts

  Mon, Sep 5 2016 5:46 PM

  
  
     THIS THREAD EXPLAINS WHAT OUR CC IS ABOUT . LISTS ALL,OF OUR EVENTS . AND INTRODUCES OUR DIRECTORS 
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  All of this will only work  if you all continue to post your greetings to the new players as well . 
   
    Please continue to do so . 
   
    Nobody likes to be told what to . I know that and have for a very long time . That's why I don't do that . What I do is inform you of certain conditions , requirements and protocol of the way things work best around here in VOTSCC . And I am very big on saying please and thank you . 
   
    The registration just to join the CC is very easy . There are a few steps that you would have to agree are reasonable before you did them . I will suggest that you complete the registration politely several times before I get the message that you don't agree . Then I will remove you . 
   
    Once you have fulfilled the easy first steps or close to it . You will be a full member . That could take up to 4 to 6 weeks if I see you are taking an interest .
   
    When you become a full member . I will basically leave you alone . As long as you make some small effort to be a visible happy member . Simply by making a remark or a post from time to time . Just playing CC tourneys is not enough here in VOTSCC . 
   
    Of course you would have to agree to that as well and voluntarily comply with our very easy protocol in order for that to work . 
   
    There are a few other things that I / we would ask that all members do . 
   
    One is to respond and welcome all new recruits . And the same as they become full members . 
   
    Another is to stay aware of current affairs . By reading this forum . We just had another custom tournament spoiled because players obviously did not read this forum or even the name of the tournament and played with regular equipment . Instead of like the name of the tournament implied and a couple forum posts explained . It was to be played with starter equipment and balls . We will not be trying that again anytime soon .
   
    There should not be more than 2 bracket tourneys running at the same time  A stroke and a CTTH . Both free to enter . As a member . If you see one of those brackets is struggling to fill . Unless you are completely anti bracket . Which is okay to be . Then please step up to help fill the bracket . 
   
    These things above and many more should go without saying . I don't want to have to speak up and post and beg for things to run right . I have seen first hand here in the past that it is not necessary . Everything just runs right when we all agree to make that happen . 
     I spell things out the way i do for everyones benefit . Especially for those who are not clear or have never been in a CC before . The things that we ask are trimmed down and scaled down to be the minimal they can in order for this CC not to  stagnate and disappear into oblivion . Lol . Right ?
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  pdb1 12,036 Posts

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        Just to spell  out the registration process for you . In the last almost 3 years . I have found many things that proved to be consistent things that help more when things are running  well . and things that don't work so well . The conditions below are very easy and when everyone works and agrees to them to get those dealt with . My job is made a lot easier . And everything else just falls into place . I know it seems different for most of you but I ask you to trust that the results are a beginning to a very smooth well run enjoyable experience . Probably unlike most thought was possible in a CC .
      When you come in . I post your CC Forum welcome here . I copy a link to it and post it in your profile welcome . Eventually these guys will respond to your welcome here . Eventually you will respond to your welcome here . It's how we all shake hands . Get that down home feeling . Lol . maybe not . Maybe get your first name . Mostly on a first name basis here . 
      Your profile welcome mentions the rest of the basics that are necessary to get started on just to be here .
      You and I must have some sort of a rapport . I don't need to chat with you . But I may need to ask you something now and then .
        Friending all other members at your convenience . No big deal . No pressure . 
      Start playing some CC tourneys . This is a big one Being in a CC means making the effort and doing CC things with and for the group that is the CC . Tourneys are a big part of that Entering the formats that suit you . We have no No minimums . Just play some . Whatever fits your schedule .You will get a KICK ASS participation award . When you start playing . And various other accolades and rewards and trophies for your achievements .
      We have a website . It is very cool . It has a lot of information about all kinds of things . There are many forums , with many sub forums and topics inside of them . There is a  chat , tutorials , information , replays , hall of fames , matches , tourneys , more information . 
      I use it to keep stats , records , scorecards , scores results , personal bests , trophies , events , tournies , etc . 
      It is harmless . I pay to not have any spam or advertising that would bother anyone .
      Unfortunately it is unused . And a virtual ghost town at this point . 
      But it is part of the CC and i need every member to register there with your  WGT username . You are not required to use it . But it is yours too . To use or not as it has many cool features . 
    https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
      When you register you will receive a club logo . Which is optional , up to you . If you do use it . It can have any name you wish on it . 
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      All of the above is all it takes to register and be a full member . Talk to me , Play CC tourneys , Friend members , Register in the website . Very simple . 
      Also on your profile welcome . There is a link to our guidelines . Please read those . The above is just the beginning . The guidelines are just the basics . I mention that there will be other things that will come up that may require you to step up and be a strong member . 
      CC XP's are not a thing here . Not required at all . If you are into them . Go for it . If you are not . I suggest you try to use your free passes efficiently . You will get a recognition trophy for all of everything you do at each 100,000 point mark .
      CC Bracket tourneys . There is at this time a continual stroke bracket going all the time . We are on our 79th in a row . We just started our CTTH's back up . They went 39 in a row . Previously . 
      We have several good tourney makers . You can make some too . JimQ916 is our awesome Tournament Director . Please friend Jim first . He will be posting in our CC forum . Every tournament , who has entered , who has and has not played their rounds , how much time is left in the round . he also has occasions when he must PM you . Please be mindful of the possibility and respond accordingly . 
      There is a daily BLITZ Mon thru Fri . 
      A 2 course CTTH SKILLS CHALLENGE . Every 72 hours .
      2 different Stoke Play in CC titles . And 2 different in CC Match Play titles . To be challenged by anyone . Challenge the title holder and win and sport the title on your wall until some beats you for it . 
      We also host CC vs CC interplay matches . Where we challenge other CC's to a somewhat matched up to 16 player roster in a match play event . We are in our 7th one right now . LIVE AND LET GOLF IN THE VOTS
      All of this and more is why we feel that a little connection and pride and ownership and presence is the least we all can do and show . To appreciate and enjoy our experience here at WGT in this CC VOTSCC . 
      I must also mention . The WGT CLASHES . Are not a required event . Some of us enjoy them . So much that all but 2 times we finished in the top 50 . Several times in the top 25 . The last 3 CLASHES in the top 15 . 
    Congratulations! Your club finished 15 in the CC EVENT #26 that ended on 26 Jun.
    
    You've received the following for playing:
    
    Flags: Dice, TeeMarkers: Dice
    
    4 WGT Country Club Passes
    
    Cheers!
    Congratulations! Your club finished 15 in the CC EVENT #27 that ended on 09 Jul.
    You've received the following for playing:
    TeeMarkers: TRex, Flags: TRex
    4 WGT Country Club Passes
    Cheers!
    Congratulations! Your club finished 11 in the CC EVENT #28 that ended on 24 Jul.
    
    You've received the following for playing:
    
    Flags: Flamingo, TeeMarkers: Flamingo
    
    4 WGT Country Club Passes
    
    Cheers!
      Welcome to VOTSCC . Please enjoy . 
    
    
    
    
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      There are also some very cool members and Directors .  You may have already noticed some posts by our Doctor of Technology azdewars . I'm about to start calling him " The Nutty Professor " . Very smart mother fcker . He is the internet wizard of all things free and how to make them secure TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY TIPS FROM THE DOCTOR OF TECHNOLOGY AZDEWARS.
      CoryGRobinson our Director of all Things Mobile . If you thought you couldn't play it on a mobile device . Cory has got some advice for you . He will tell you how . 
      We even have a Director of Human relations KookyKanadianGal Kelly . This gal is smart too . She is the Kween of Komedy , the Princess of Pun . And a smooth talker that can smooth out any turbulence with her wisdom and intellect . She will also charm your pants off if your not careful . 
      I mentioned JimQ916 our Director of Tournaments . Is also our bringer of so often much needed humor as Jokin Jim . Who runs the DON"T CHOKE IT "JOKE IT " Departmenrt as well .  
      And Jtcooki . our CLASH Master . Our Director of CLASH related things .
    
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 11,089 Posts

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   MAYBE A TUTORIAL WILL HELP
  WHAT IS A WGT CC ?
  RATHER THAN MAKE A WHOLE NEW POST FOR EACH N.............
  THE MAGIC STAR THE KING THE GOLDEN DRAGON & THE ROYAL MOON
  HOW TO PLAY OUR BLITZ
  SO THAT YOU NEW GUYS KNOW HOW IT WORKS ( ammended )
   [b]9 SHADES OF GREY[/b]
  ARE CC TOURNEYS RANKED ? AND DO THEY COUNT ?
  VOTSCC FRIENDS GOT IT LIKE THAT
   SINGLE PLAYER UNLIMITED PLAY FACTS
   
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  pdb1 12,036 Posts

  Wed, Sep 7 2016 6:21 PM

  
  
   What is a WGT CC 
  
  There are as many agendas as there are WGT CC's . The commonalities are few . Mainly a place where a group of players gather for many reasons . Mostly to benefit from the availability of specific features offered in the CC's agenda . 
   
    Whether it be monetary , skills , entertainment , enjoyment . One can excel with the customized events featured . 
   
    There are some very hard nosed CC's . That require stringent registration and membership commitments . Like minimums of CC and multiplayer events required each week or month , entry into premium tournaments . Required use of CC XP pass on a daily basis . And many more things that fit into some CC's agendas .
   
    Many seek this type of CC and are very happy with them . 
   
    Some require nothing at all . Once a recruit . You will remain a recruit forever . There will be no information on how to improve , tier up , differences in various equipment , how to lower your average . If any , a small selection of tournaments usually not accommodating to your tier level . No CC forum to speak of to inquire and receive information . 
   
    WGT includes a CC forum with every CC to be utilized for the purposes of communicating information and important details for many different things . 
   
    VOTSCC would like to be open to all tiers . Accepting and supporting . Teaching and improving any and all areas any member so desires . The availability of a variety of formats for all tiers . In the ultimate environment to take the time get the information and do the work needed to let one be the best they can be here in WGT . That is just the basics and beginning of what VOTSCC would like to provide . 
   
    On top of all that . Being a fully involved group with accessible members . That are friendly and helpful and supportive of all team mates . Available as friends to PM to inquire , or set up matches . A conscious effort to be green at times often to invite and accept invitations from other CC members . All of which takes effort from any who enjoy this type of format . It will not just happen at a whim . Concerted efforts by many must be consistent for this to be a reality . 
   
    Efforts at all times to help to fill brackets . By those who enjoy brackets . Not just sometimes . Because that causes stagnation and frustration . 
   
    Entry into CC tourneys made for your tier level . High participation  makes them more fun and worthwhile . Members friendily and competitively pushing other members as team mates to help us all to improve to our very best . Cheering and congratulating all along the way . 
   
    These CC tourneys are the ultimate practice rounds that actually count . Created so that if you are not liking the way the round is going . You do not complete the round . But rather restart from the menu and try it again then or try it again later . When you finally get a score that you like . You finish the round and is the only round that counts . In these single player unlimited play rounds . Any incomplete round does not count against your average . Or against your game completion average . GC% . But they do count against you in multiplayer ranked rounds .
   
    The CC environment is the best place to prepare oneself to challenge other WGT players in multiplayer stroke play ranked rounds . To hone your skills to get the confidence to create or join a game in the game client and kick ass . 
   
    There are other skill based formats in VOTSCC . BLITZES and CTTH's that are fun and challenging and very beneficial to your game play . 
   
    There are 4 in CC for VOTSCC players only challenge competitions . 2 stroke play and 2 match play . " The Magic Star " stroke . " The King " match . " The Golden Dragon " stroke .
  " The Royal Moon " match . Where at any time any member challenges the title holder to a 9 hole round . Stating at the start of the match that they are challenging for the title . If you win . You sport the title on your wall until someone takes it from you . 
    
    All of this . And so much more . Is why the very easy conditions that are asked to join . Make it so worth while . 
   
    This CC is awesome and different and we have had various periods of GR8 success . And various periods of slowness . But we never give up . 
   
    Very happy and proud to have every one of you part of this GR8 CC .
   
    Thank you very much . 
   
    VOTSCC
  
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  NEW FUN IN CC CHALLENGES . THE GOLDEN DRAGON & THE ROYAL MOON
   
   
     Please read page 1 . These are on going CC in CC challenges . There are 2 stroke play titles and 2 match play titles .  
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   VOTSCC's KICK ASS SKILLS CHALLENGES CTTH SERIES # 4 REMIX
  By pdb1 in Valley of the Sun Casual Club
   
   
    This is also a bump for the information and benefit of the newer members . But just a reminder to anyone  that we have this ongoing challenge as well . These appear in the  CC tourneys CTTH section . There are usually 2 courses going at the same . They are unlimited play for 72 hours . Through all 35 CTTH courses . Then we start over again .
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    DESERT BLITZ - Welcome to Season 18, Week 4
  By pdb1 in Valley of the Sun Casual Club
   
   
    Arguably one of the best and funnest . Most challenging and rewarding of our CC events .
   
    Play 1 BLITZ course a day . Mon thru Fri . 
   
    See .
  HOW TO PLAY OUR BLITZ
  POST YOUR SCORES HERE
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   VOTSCC vs CC INTERPLAY # 7 COMING SOON
  By pdb1 in Valley of the Sun Casual Club
   
    This is TEAM VOTSCC  our  Interplay team and CC representatives . Who play matches I set up with other CC's . Where each member is matched with a member from another CC . The 2 of them usually have 2 weeks to arrange and play 1 or 2 matches . 
   
    These are fun . And a GR8 way to meet other members from other fun CC's . For me I have continued to play matches with members from every CC . And is a GR8 way to represent our CC in a positive , sporting way . 
   
    Looking to get back to 16 players . 
   
    Almost ready to set up a new CLASH .
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  Bracket Tournament #87 (Stroke Play) is set up
  Bracket Tournament #44 (CTTH) information
  By pdb1 in Valley of the Sun Casual Club
     Hello to anyone who is not already participating in our bracket tourneys .We are running a Stroke and a CTTH bracket all the time.  . We have played 131 consecutive bracket tourneys in a row . A very fun event . 
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   CC ROUNDS / TOURNAMENTS ENDING 9/21 - 9/28
  CC ROUNDS / TOURNAMENTS ENDING 9/20 - 9/27
  CC ROUNDS / TOURNAMENTS ENDING 9/19 - 9/26
  CC ROUNDS / TOURNAMENTS ENDING 9/18 - 9/25
  By pdb1 in Valley of the Sun Casual Club
     And of course our CC tourneys . Brought to you by a couple few GR8 tourney makers . Managed and directed by JimQ916 .
   
    Who personally brings us these daily updates of every CC tourney . The details of every round . Every member that has signed in and still has a round left to play and how much time is left in that round . Incredibly valuable info as the WGT notifications are so annoying and don't say anything .
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  http://www.wgt.com/clubs/tournaments.aspx
    All other CC tourneys like Arnie's Custom tourneys , or someone elses , or Premium tourneys can be found here .
   
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  PRAISES , ENCOURAGEMENT ,PATS ON THE BACK , THANK YOU'S , AWARDS , ACCOLADES , TROPHIES ETC .Are a very big part of this CC . Although I cannot keep up with every little achievement . I try to be sure that everyone is recognized when credit is due .
    Participation award .  This award shows that you know how to find our CC tourneys and have played at least one . 
  
    Club Logo . This you get after registering in the website . It is optional . Completely your decision to sport it or not . And can be customized with any name you like on it . 
  
    Recognition trophies for everything you do for the CC are given out at every 100,000 point milestone .
  VOTSCC "KICK ASS" 100,000 POINT CLUB MEMBERS
    Trophies for other various events and records and alltime high scores , personal bests , etc .
  VOTSCC BRACKETS STROKE & CTTH's
   
  

   CUSTOM BRACKET TOURNEY AND SPECIAL TOURNEY'S , SKILL'S EVENTS CHAMPIONS

  
  
  
   DESERT BLITZ SEASON CHAMPS
   BLITZ SINGLE ROUND PERSONAL BESTS
   VOTSCC 1,000,000 POINTS IN A WEEK SEASONS
   VOTSCC DESERT BLITZ COURSE HIGH SCORES FOR ALL SEASONS 
   VOTSCC KICK ASS " SPECIAL AWARDS "
    To name just a few . And of course our " HALLOF FAME " , " BEST OF REPLAYS " " REPLAY BLOOPERS " . WITH OVER 400 REPLAYS OF HIO'S , DOUBLE EAGLES , EAGLES BIRDIES , BLITZ  HOLERS , AND SOME FUNNY REPLAY BLOOPERS . 
  Valley of the Sun CC HALL OF FAME
  Valley of the Sun CC BEST OF REPLAYS
  REPLAY BLOOPERS
  and of course 
   
    And a whole lot more . 
    Forgot one 
   VOTSCC KICK ASS " SPECIAL AWARDS "
  
  
  
  
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    It is very simple . In this CC you have to give a little to get a little . Here you get a lot for giving a little .
  
  
  
  
  
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  CC BRACKET TOURNEYS :
    I WANT TO PUT THIS SOMEWHERE IT WILL BE SEEN BY ALL . IF I HAD THE ABILITY TO GROUP MESSAGE I WOULD BE DOING THAT . I STOPPED SENDING THEM ONE AT A TIME OVER A YEAR AGO . 
    CC Bracket Tournaments are a single play event . Same as WGT Bracket Tournaments . 
    The difference is in CC Bracket tournaments . One is accountable for their entry . 
    Single play CC Bracket Tournaments are a higher level of game play . A more serious format . A higher level of commitment because they are single play . And the field is limited to 16 players that understand this commitment and the rules of the format . 
    Each player knows this prior to their entry in his event . That they are committed to each round . To complete each round and record a score . The player matched up with your name also has the same commitment . You can not decide mid round that the opponent is having a better round . If you show up for your round . the option to not complete the round is not possible . If this is not agreeable to you . Do not sign up for our bracket tourneys .
    This is especially important in the first round . If the clock in the round is still ticking . And you show a WD . That means that you started playing your round and QUIT before completing it . That is not acceptable and gives your match up a bye . And they likely had a worse round than you . But they stepped up and completed their round respectfully . 
    That is how it works here . No big deal . Just takes a commitment to finish your round . 
    If you miss your round . That is a different story . Shyt happens . We will give you the benefit of the doubt that if you could have been there you would have . And you would have completed your round . 
   
    BTW i have the ability to group message in the website . Unfortunately the target audience for this message has not registered in the website and would not receive them .
  
  
  
  
  
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   pdb1:
  These CC tourneys are the ultimate practice rounds that actually count . Created so that if you are not liking the way the round is going . You do not complete the round . But rather restart from the menu and try it again then or try it again later . When you finally get a score that you like . You finish the round and is the only round that counts . In these single player unlimited play rounds . Any incomplete round does not count against your average . Or against your game completion average . GC% . But they do count against you in multiplayer ranked rounds .

  
  
    There are all kinds of good things to know in this thread " TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK " . Please read through the entire thread . Click on and read all the links . 
  
  
  
  
  
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    For those of you that are not clear about the difference between our WGT CC , WGT CC Forum  And our Awesome Bonus Website . 
    Our focus at this point in time is almost entirely here in this WGT CC / WGT CC Forum . 
    Everything I / we talk about and do is of and about trying to build and improve and maintain all this WGT stuff . 
    The website https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/ . I created . Is an incredible website / forum that has many things to offer that are user friendly with options not available in WGT . 
    The original plan was to try and incorporate some of that cool stuff into our CC . ( long story ) . It became obvious that that was going to be a battle that I / we were not ready for . 
    It would have had to have been a completely voluntary and cooperative effort by all . That proved to be something bigger and harder than we / our members were willing to undertake . I wasn't about to try and demand and make members to comply . 
    The CC was very active  when I first introduced the website . Within a couple months I started to host a series of 20 multi player week end tournaments called " THE VALLEY OF THE SUN KICK ASS TOURS WEEK END FUN IN THE SUN " . Through http://challonge.com/ . A website that provides auto generated brackets for all kinds of sports . And was the original reason it was necessary for everyone to register in the site with their WGT username .http://challonge.com/ and WGT have a common link through the usernames for Challonge invites and emails . Very convenient . 
    These tournaments were a tough format for some to follow . But we still pulled them off successfully for several months in the first half of 2015  
    These brackets were played in our website in the live embedded brackets . With the use of our chat room in the website . All participants could see the brackets as they changed rounds and match ups until the finals . And a Supreme Champion would be named .
   click here to see the website page and the brackets and the chat they were played in 
    or click Page 3 . 
    click here for more information
    or click Page 2
    After a good run . The tournaments came to a screeching halt when the WGT " invisilble invite " glitch overtook us and made it impossible to invite or receive invites for many players . 
    After that the website and it's activity slowed considerably . Until virtually no one to speak of ever came there for chatting in the chat room . Which was and still could be a very good place to stop in and see who was there , leave a message to someone or anyone . That you were going to be on and wanting to play . The chatroom was a place you could click to in a second no matter what you were doing . You could be playing  a round and just click over to it . See some one you knew or wanted to play a match with ( usually by chance I admit ) . But when it was more active . it was more likely to happen . 
    I tried to encourage and promote the site and all it GR8 features . But it became evident that it was too much to ask . That it was probably enough to get our WGT CC to be active . The website was a whole different commitment . And was not going to happen . 
    That was a tough pill for me to swallow . I had put a considerable amount of work into the venture . I had no choice but to back away and put those plans on the back burner . 
    That was fine . Because just keeping a WGT CC together is a very difficult job in itself . 
    So to this day . Even though the website is still full of very helpful information . And is still a part of this CC . It is only a bonus and available to our CC members , members from other CC's , members not belonging to CC's , and some that don't even belong to WGT . 
    It is not required to use it .
    Some of us still use it to record  our Desert BLITZ  scores .A successful format I created in the website  . 
    I do use it for the recording of stats , records , wins , scorecards , personal bests , trophies , tutorials , how to's . Related to every player and tons of stuff that comes from all over the place . 
    So now I ask and require that all CC members only register there with their WGT username for my purposes and needs for the WGT CC . 
    After a one time registration there . Nothing else is required of you there . It is totally up to you whether you visit it or utilize any of it . 
   
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      NEW FORUM FEATURE :            "  IT'S A MATCH  "
  
  
  
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    pdb1 11,256 Posts

    Fri, Sep 16 2016 8:59 PM

    
    
     
      Here we can talk about and set up our multi player matches . I am still trying to generate more interest in those matches . I just want to ask that you play 1 or 2 now and then . With a CC mate or 2 or 3 . 
      Especially if you haven't tried them before or only have a couple few under your belt . 
      Not trying to change the formats that you like . Only to add this and on occasion play this . 
      They are so much fun . They are ice breakers . And it is so comfortable and rewarding getting to know your CC mates a little better . 
      The alt shot and match play rounds are completely social . As they can never count in any way ( with the exception of scored match play rounds won by a lower tier , those rounds count in that the lower tier winner gets a couple points shaved off their average ) . Other than that the alt shot and match play rounds are just plain fun .
      The stroke play matches do count . But if i am playing with CC members I have yet to be able to stop talking . And pay attention to any serious game play .
        Yesterday  I got an invite from Kelly . We played a GR8 match play round . So much fun . 
      Today I got an invite from wishman51 Andrew , And deadfreight  Steve joined us for a stroke play match . As has happened the last 3 times I have played Andrew there has been a disconnect on the first hole and everybody comes back except Andrew . IDK what's up with that ? But Steve and i played on and finally met and chatted and the game flew right by . A lot of fun . It was GR8 finally meeting and playing a match with Steve . 
      I also met  a guy the other day in an alt shot match . Another CC owner named UFCJohny . CC is called Arnies Army . That's all I know about that . But he has been trying to challenge me to a BLITZ tracked round . The first 2 times I disconnected . In those it's game over . And you don't want too many of those or your completion icon turns to average and then poor completion colors . ( whatever colors those are I think orange and yellow IDK i'm colorblind . green is good .)
      Well we finally completed one today . And i whooped him . 
      YOUR ENTRIES GO HERE . BELOW MINE . IN THE NEXT POST . 
    
    
    
    
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    pdb1 11,256 Posts

    Sun, Sep 18 2016 5:30 AM

    
    
    KookyKanadianGal moved up to the Tour Pro tier.
    KookyKanadianGal defeated pdb1 in a 9 hole match play game on WGT BEST OF FAMOUS HOLES.
    KookyKanadianGal and pdb1 defeatedcharliesp and Marilean in a 9-hole Alternate Shot game on WGT BEST OF FAMOUS HOLES.
      She's kicking ass and taking names . 
    
    
    
    
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    KookyKanadianGal 27 Posts

    Sun, Sep 18 2016 6:06 AM

    
    
     
    

     pdb1:
    She's kicking ass and taking names . 

    
     
    You betta believe it honey!
    xxx
    
  
  
  
  
  
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  JimQ916 3,757 Posts

  Fri, Sep 30 2016 3:27 AM

  
  
  Go Kelly Go girl!!!!
  
  
  
  
  
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  pdb1 12,036 Posts

  Wed, Oct 12 2016 4:29 AM

  
  
  
  

   pdb1:
  
  All of this will only work  if you all continue to post your greetings to the new players as well . 
   
    Please continue to do so . 
  

  
  
    All new members guys .
   
  
  

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