by Paul Tue 19 Sep 2023, 1:29 am
9 SHADES OF GREY WGT Forum Link .
IMPORTANT NOTE : The active WGT Forum Linka ( at the top of each thread ) . Are the original links to these threads . But currently are incomplete . As my posts have been hidden from public view in each thread .
Fortunately the versions posted here in this website . Are complete and include all of my posts .
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- Below there are 9 different match or game formats listed . These are all very fun and exellent formats for us to enjoy here at WGT . Each one of these formats would not be one that would have any way to record a round that would be able to a effect ones average in anyway .
**( of course with the exception of match play rounds up to the level of Legend . After which point would no longer have any effect one way or another , up or down on ones average ).
This is all correct ( above )
As a CC owner . I have been asked this question frequently . The above is the only way I can figure out to explain it .
For instance . If one decided to play any one of those 9 formats for a period of say 1 year exclusively . During that year , said persons average would do nothing . Neither go up or go down .
Does not affect me at all one way or another . Just trying to confirm this to be true . FYI
MATCH PLAY
MATCH PLAY CHALLENGE
ALTERNATE SHOT
BLITZ
BLITZ CHALLENGE
SKINS GAME
HOLE-IN-ONE CHALLENGES
CLOSEST-TO-THE-HOLE CHALLENGE
PRACTICE ROUNDS
CUSTOM COURSES
*BO PAR 3
*BO PAR 5 *
MOBILE COIN ROOMS
* can be included as rounds that do not effect ones average , but are stroke and ranked , but not counted toward saturation .
**
pdb1: Try this tip . Up until the level of Legend . The fastest way to tier up is to challenge players of any tiers above your own to a scored match play round . You will win some . Some may even let you win . WGT scores you with the highest margin of points on your average when you beat a tier above your own . Depending on the tier and margin of win . You could gain 3 or 4 points that would drop your average 3 or 4 points right there . It is the only way match play can effect your average . Like i said . The quickest way to tier up .
Not to mention . You will meet obscure players with the " find a game " feature searching for higher level match play opponents . Players with 15,000 match play rounds and 10,000 stroke play rounds . One right after another . It is incredible .
Other than that you could waste a lot of time if you were to play 11 shades of grey
Formats that do count towards ones average .
Stroke Play Multiplayer .
Strokeplay Single Player Unlimited Play . WGT tiered and CC Unlimited Play .
Bracket Rounds ( with the exception of CTTH's ).
Ready Go's
WGT Tournament's .
CLASH Rounds .
Or ..
STROKE PLAY PRACTICE
Mushy01:Or ..
STROKE PLAY PRACTICE
Yes you are right any practice round . I did leave them out .
PD I do think you are over complicating this:
The known:
RRs count for average (exc BoP3/5 as all done);
MP (scored or challenge) will zoom you to Legend, but once L they will not zoom you to TL.;
Earnings also affect your progress, but sadly WGT seem to choose to leave MPC earnings out of the equation.
The X Factor:
WGT will not, for good reason I think, share more.
After that just chill. Go have a smoke, play some guitar or even WGT
Lol once again my approach to to what I am inquiring couldn't be clearer to me . Again it obviously evades others as I did not really go into detail as to why I wanted confirmation that the 9 games above do nothing to decrease or increase ones average one way or another .
As also is my clear awareness of the various types of games that actually do move ones average one way or another . Lol not concerned about those in this thread .
FYI my quest to inform various uninformed CC members I keep running into little issues that are stunning to discover some members ( WGT & CC ) that just don't know some stuff . In that quest to inform . As I have found and mentioned before . There just may not be any information written specifically pointing out what could be crucial facts and or general knowledge . I don't think any of it is written . We just have to wing it or guess . Because whatever it is sure ain't written in the FAQ's . Lol . NVRFKNMIND.
I'm just sayin
hi you are
correct in that a player can stay??amateur? for years
i have had a game with a player
he has been a member since 2011 level 91
likes to play lots of blitz games and alternate shots games
and can play all 9 of the games you have put down
some players just like to play with friends
Bingo flopperboy2 . That's all I am saying .
Hey guys...great discussion and good information. Thanks
spglasser:Hey guys...great discussion and good information. Thanks
Glad to help spglasser . There is a lot of stuff that some people don't know . And should
I just unexpectedly went to Championship tier (thought I needed a 58 average, but it was 59). What is the saturation number of games?
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TopShelf2010:spglasser:I just unexpectedly went to Championship tier (thought I needed a 58 average, but it was 59). What is the saturation number of games?
I believe the Champion Tier saturation is 200 Ranked Rounds. I always get confused when it comes to Par 3's and Par 5's when discussing saturation. Hopefully someone else can elaborate a little deeper.
Congrats on making Champion
Don
You need to play at least 200 ranked rounds as Tour Legend to be saturated ( average stops going up ).
When your average score is equal to or smaller than 59 you go from Tour Legend to Champion.
You need to play another 200 ranked rounds as a Champion to be saturated ( average stops going up ).
As far as BO par3's & BO par5's . They will not count . Their averages are outside the WGT valid par range .
BO par4's will count .
.
Nothing of Par3 and Par5 games counts towards the average.
It wouldn't work out in any other way.
That's Paul x 2 .
Considering that it took me 520 ranked rounds to saturate as Legend, I would say the 3s and 5s don't count.
K7JBQ:Considering that it took me 520 ranked rounds to saturate as Legend, I would say the 3s and 5s don't count.
This is not new news . This has always been the case .
I used to think that it was a ranked counted round for saturation . It is not . That means that your 20 rounds counted for overall game completion . But not for your average nor saturation . Sounds like .
Which doesn't make sense . Go figure . Lol .
pdb1: * MOBILE COIN ROOMS "
I just added MOBILE COIN ROOMS . To the spin your wheels list .
There is a phenomena happening right now .
Thousands of long time mobile players are wondering why their averages have remained at 150.00 for so long and not changed .
They are told by some that they need to play stroke play rounds . As stroke play is the only rounds that are ranked and count toward ones average .
What the WGT PCer genius didn't know to tell the mobile player . Is that there is now a new stroke play format . That is not ranked rounds .
Coin Rooms . These stroke play rounds do not and will not effect ones average one way or the other . They do not count .
That is not mentioned anywhere . Nor is there any mention in the mobile play as to how to get this kind of information at WGT.com .
No mention of the protocol for tiering up . Or how to get information about the game they are playing . In the WGT.com FAQ's . or the Main Forums search feature .
When I play those coin room guys . They say Legend ? is that a new one ?
Because there is no coin room for Legends , Tour Legends , or Champions . So they have never heard of them .
Yesterday the guy thought he was going to go from Tour Master to Tour Champion .
So i mentioned that if he were to encounter PC at some point . He should look up WGT.com . To learn a little about the millions and millions in the WGT universe . And the game he was playing .
He said " The what ? Okay thank you I will try that .
He was a 2 year Tour Master . Knew nothing at all .
I'm just saying . Doesn't WGT have some kind of accountability to tie the two unsupported platforms together ? In all the other ways other than cross platform ?
Are they not playing the same game ? With a couple oddly different features ?
I know my mobile players . Came up with all the PC knowledge already . they play all CC tourneys to improve their averages and tiers . They communicate in our CC forum and PM's just the same and better than a lot of our PC players .
But who is supposed to enlighten all these new mobilites ?
How are they supposed to learn WGT ?
pdb1: You need to play at least 200 ranked rounds as Tour Legend to be saturated ( average stops going up ).
When your average score is equal to or smaller than 59 you go from Tour Legend to Champion.
You need to play another 200 ranked rounds as a Champion to be saturated ( average stops going up ).
These were the old numbers and have since been revised a couple times :
CURRENT BASIC LEVEL AND AVERAGE REQUIREMENTS, AND SATURATION
You need to play at least 5 ranked rounds as hack to saturate & be eligible for Amateur.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 100 you go from Hack to Amateur.
You need to play at least 10 ranked rounds as amateur to saturate & be eligible for Pro.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 80 you go from Amateur to Pro..
You need to play at least 20 ranked rounds as Pro to saturate & be eligible for Tour Pro.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 72 you go from pro to Tour Pro.
You need to play at least 25 ranked rounds as Tour pro to saturate & be eligible for Master.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 67 you go from Tour Pro to Master.
You need to play at least 40 ranked rounds as Master to saturate & be eligible for Tour Master.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 63 you go from Master to Tour Master.
You need to play at least 50 ranked rounds as Tour Master to saturate & be eligible for Legend.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 61 you go from Tour Master to Legend.
You need to play at least 500 ranked rounds as Legend to to saturate & be eligible for Tour Legend.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 60 you go from Legend to Tour Legend.
You need to play at least 750 ranked rounds as Tour Legend to to saturate & be eligible for Champion .
When your average score is equal or smaller than 59 you go from Tour Legend to Champion .
You need to play another 1000 ranked rounds as a Champion to saturate .
When your average score is equal to or smaller than 55 you are eligible to go from Champion to Tour Champion .
Thanks for this.
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