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THERE HAS GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY

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pdb1
25,122 Posts

Sun, May 15 2016 9:15 AM

Besides all the copy and pasting and hopping from site to site gathering info and editing trophies etc . I also get emails and messages from members and players and friends and not so much friends from all over WGT. You know me . I just cant respond with a simple
Thanx
Paul
I have to write a book about every thing somebody asks me . All the time . That takes soo looong . It is just the way I do it . So it is no wonder I can't see the invites from people . The same invites that I preach to everybody that they should consider accepting .
I wish WGT would enable some kind of sound like a fire alarm or an air horn or a fog horn or a siren on the invite icon . ( joking ) Or maybe add an invite icon to the top and bottom of the tab pages . Possibly a notification like . ( not joking )
" A MEMBER IS INVITING YOU TO A MULTIPLAYER MATCH IN OUR INVITE SYSTEM . TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE PLEASE CLICK HERE ".
I get messages like the one below too often . The sad thing is nobody wants to accept invites more than I do . Those multiplayer matches are my best times here on WGT . I just can't see the invites .
I explain that I just didn't see them . Most do not believe me . This is and has been a WGT wide problem forever . Most times the green available only means that one is logged on to WGT. If they do not see the invite . They are most likely surfing , or typing , or going to the bathroom , or at Walmart . . They are not sitting there waiting to ignore or decline your invite .
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i invited you to 4-5 games, no response. You must not be interested. Not trying anymore. thanks anyways.
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andyson
6,415 Posts

Sun, May 15 2016 12:02 PM

pdb1:
Besides all the copy and pasting and hopping from site to site gathering info and editing trophies etc .

Copying from your "private" WGT CC forum and pasting to your "public" independent CC site is redundant to the extreme.

pdb1:
I also get emails and messages from members and players and friends

Which you ask for. "I want YOU to message ME"
You're making all this extra work for yourself! And then you complain about it? Sheesh!

pdb1:
I wish WGT would enable some kind of sound like a fire alarm or an air horn or a fog horn or a siren on the invite icon .

[url=http://andyson.x10.mx/Air Horn.mp3]Click here to play this audio clip[/url]

Because YOU can't properly manage your green light status to say you're busy when you ARE busy, you ask WGT to add annoying sounds to an invite that ALL OF US (who properly manage our status) will then need to deal with.
As usual, it's all about pdb1.
And say hi to Heidi Klum for me when she joins your CC.

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pdb1
25,122 Posts

Sun, May 15 2016 9:49 PM

andyson:
Which you ask for. "I want YOU to message ME"

Has nothing to do with it . I have half as many as I used to .

andyson:
And then you complain about it?

Nope not complaining at all . that is the way I get things done . I am sure just the same as any owner .

andyson:
Because YOU can't properly manage your green light status to say you're busy when you ARE busy, you ask WGT to add annoying sounds to an invite that ALL OF US (who properly manage our status) will then need to deal with.

I was almost joking about the annoying sounds . I have sounds disabled in WGT anyways . But the relocation and addition of the invite icon , and a notification are very real and serious suggestions . It is too bad that you have intimidated the entire WGT world so much that they will not come here and confirm my issues ever . They wouldn't take a chance against you all . This is very confirmed BTW . I have been told this countless times . COUNTLESS . Means more than I can count .
I shouldn't have to manage my green light status . If some one wants to invite me . The only way for me to know this is a little tiny rectangle barely visible and only if you are on the right part of one page . How is that working out for everyone in WGT ?
Not well . I talk to many CC owners that have the same problems and always have . In fact i have been told by the owners of active and popular 250 member CC's that alt shot is so difficult to get anyone on the same page on . That very little effort is put toward that mode .. Because of the very difficult to accept invite system . That is one of the main reasons why alt shot is not ever included in independent tournaments . This is true . One who uses the " create a game " and or " find a game " features using the random modes with the " best match or " anyone " selections would not have these problems
Andyson If you continue to try and discredit me . I will stop . I will just leave WGT and my CC . There is so much BS all around . You are not a CC owner . You have no idea about any of the things I have talked about for the last couple of years .
You are so fcking annoying . Knowing that i have to battle you makes me want to puke . If your intention is to drive me out of WGT as you have successfully single handedly done to members on many occasions . Then you may be close to doing that .
The above posting is none of your concern because you can not comprehend it . So STFU please .

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bypass07
1,360 Posts

Mon, May 16 2016 1:16 AM

Heidi,do you want to play a game ??
Not Global thermal irradiation I hope.
thx

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PaulTon
10,731 Posts

Mon, May 16 2016 4:27 AM

pdb1:
I shouldn't have to manage my green light status . If some one wants to invite me . The only way for me to know this is a little tiny rectangle barely visible and only if you are on the right part of one page . How is that working out for everyone in WGT ?

It is never a problem for me, my CC buddies or friends in general.

pdb1:
. I talk to many CC owners that have the same problems and always have . In fact i have been told by the owners of active and popular 250 member CC's that alt shot is so difficult to get anyone on the same page on . That very little effort is put toward that mode .. Because of the very difficult to accept invite system . That is one of the main reasons why alt shot is not ever included in independent tournaments .

Our CC has a regular alt shot tournament without any invite problems. We also have many members who play alt shot together every day, again without any invite problems.

pdb1:
Andyson If you continue to try and discredit me . I will stop . I will just leave WGT and my CC .

That's ridiculous Paul, I would never let anyone live in my head rent free.

pdb1:
The above posting is none of your concern because you can not comprehend it .

Yes he really can.
Running a club, although time consuming, is not rocket science ffs!

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pdb1
25,122 Posts

Mon, May 16 2016 5:26 AM

PaulTon:
Our CC has a regular alt shot tournament without any invite problems. We also have many members who play alt shot together every day, again without any invite problems.

PaulTon:
It is never a problem for me, my CC buddies or friends in general.

.

I am not surprised and happy to hear that
There is no doubt that there are some very dedicated and loyal and willing to do the work CC's full of players that get it . That is admirable . But far from the norm . Really . Most WGTers don't have it like that . I used to think it was just my CC . But even at our best during 2015 . It wasn't easy to pull off . We had several alt shot tourneys as well .
That group has moved on and I have inquired of many many other players throughout WGT . It seems that many do not have much luck in the inviting of CC members and or friends from their lists . There are many factors that come into play . Not just the difficulty in getting invites accepted from the desired player . The willingness to be available at the ideal times is lacking in a very noticeable way . Attitudes have changed site wide . Could be a result of the inability to complete a multiplayer round as disconnects continue to plaque this format as much or more than any other . A big problem all around for everyone .
You have to have noticed the impact these glitches have had . Then I come back to the frustration of missing for whatever reason the much wanted and anticipated invite . That can only be seen in that little tiny rectangle in the " PLAY NOW " left side flash player area in the tab window . I could have missed 5 invites just now writing this response . The current notifying little green rectangle completely evades any tasks or necessary moving around to perform any number of routine and necessary tasks that many find necessary to do on a regular basis . There is no disputing this . As much as I keep checking mine . I still miss a majority on a daily basis . It just makes sense in so many ways to have a more attention getting notification .

PaulTon:
That's ridiculous Paul, I would never let anyone live in my head rent free.

pdb1:
you can not comprehend it .

PaulTon:
Yes he really can.

Yes both are notions are ridiculous . As ignorant as he acts . I respond with as much contempt .

PaulTon:
Running a club, although time consuming, is not rocket science ffs!

Of course not . But it does require looking at every scenario in a completely different perspective than a normal player ever would consider . And the better the owner . The more of this is very evident . That's just a given .
As perfect as your CC is and runs , and a good amount of others as well . There are 100 times as many that encounter the opposite results . Maybe more . I know it will be a cold day in hell when WGT takes its sites off of you upstanding perfect running like " dradles " CC's and care about the problems that don't generate revenue issues that the rest of us incur as a lifestyle on an everyday basis here on WGT .
It is what it is . I don't make these obvious states of affairs up . I observe and listen and this is what I see .

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andyson
6,415 Posts

Mon, May 16 2016 9:21 AM

pdb1:
( edited to make it easier for andyson to comprehend )

Wasn't necessary as I comprehed just fine. Although now I see you backed off being serious about adding the air horn sounding. So that's progress.

pdb1:

andyson:
Which you ask for. "I want YOU to message ME"

Has nothing to do with it . I have half as many as I used to .

Likely because you have half as many CC members as you used to have.

pdb1:
I shouldn't have to manage my green light status .

But, like the rest of us, you do need to manage it as you are missing invites. Don't go green if you are busy doing other stuff where you might miss an invite. AND If you see CC members are green then stop what you are busy with and send them invites. This makes sense since you are emphasizing internal CC play among members you might give it higher priority. This is not rocket science either!

pdb1:
Because of the very difficult to accept invite system .

pdb1:
How is that working out for everyone in WGT ?

Lots of public CC vs CC matches, lots of multi-player games being played, so the invite system is working quite well thank you!
Remember when WGT effed up the invite system and invites weren't being received? What a mess that was! If it ain't broke don't fix it! WGT's track record on changes is not good, so leave it alone.

pdb1:
If your intention is to drive me out of WGT as you have successfully single handedly done to members on many occasions .

That's BS! Back it up with evidence! Your posts are full of unsubstantiated exaggerations. The last time you tried that tactic I showed you were full of it!
In that classic pdb1 thread "I MEAN WHAT I SAY NOT WHAT YOU READ" lol, you gave some specifics (the falling off the turnip truck incident) and you said I was responsible with driving out that member. I was not even remotely involved! Pffft!

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pdb1
25,122 Posts

Mon, May 16 2016 6:08 PM

andyson:
I see you backed off being serious about adding the air horn sounding

Yes . I thought air horns and sirens were a feasible request . Glad I have you to straighten me out

andyson:
Lots of public CC vs CC matches, lots of multi-player games being played, so the invite system is working quite well thank you!

.

Wrong again andyson .

andyson:
I was not even remotely involved!

That's what all the mob bosses say when they get their henchmen to do their dirty work . Lol .

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PaulTon
10,731 Posts

Tue, May 17 2016 3:27 AM

Oh dear, the village cretin has accessed a keyboard again.

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pdb1
25,122 Posts

Tue, May 17 2016 6:00 AM

PaulTon:
Oh dear

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andyson
6,415 Posts Tue, May 17 2016 12:33 PM

PaulTon:

Oh dear, the village cretin has accessed a keyboard again.

Paul (you forum rat!) that's pretty harsh on cretins everywhere! ;o)
BTW, here's his latest:
pdb1
25,122 Posts Wed, May 18 2016 8:26 PM

Yes it's gr8 stuff . But it is no cure for what plagues me . I continue ( as I have for years now ) missing many invites per day . Very regretfully so . As I consider myself available and on WGT . Anxious to accept . But I have no way to know I am being invited .
PaulTon
10,731 Posts Thu, May 19 2016 1:20 AM
There is a very simple solution to your problem. Get Maxthon browser and utilise it's split screen function, no more missed invites.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Thu, May 19 2016 4:51 AM

PaulTon:
There is a very simple solution to your problem. Get Maxthon browser and utilise it's split screen function, no more missed invites.

I already have Maxthon and the split screen function that I use everyday . Hadn't considered leaving it open as a viewer to the WGT tab pages or game client . . That is a very good idea and solution . Thank you for that . Am excited to see who's invites I can pick up .
andyson
6,415 Posts Thu, May 19 2016 7:07 AM

PaulTon:
Get Maxthon browser and utilise it's split screen function, no more missed invites.

The same effect can be done with any browser using two side by side resized windows.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Thu, May 19 2016 9:36 PM
Wow . Look at all those Ads . Haven't seen them for years .
pdb1
25,122 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 5:47 AM
You have blocked 230,231 ads !
Each time I reinstall Maxthon this number starts over . So it is closer to 2,000,000 . Have been over 750,000 a couple times Without blocking the ads . I get much more slow loading and disconnects .
reddevil16
273 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 5:50 AM
Looks simple !!

How do you get the split screen!!! I'm a PC Dummy
Russ
PaulTon
10,731 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 6:15 AM

reddevil16:

Looks simple !!

How do you get the split screen!!! I'm a PC Dummy
Russ

On Maxthon it's simple -

I don't know how Andy was doing his way, he'll probably tell us later when he sees this.
andyson
6,415 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 6:23 AM

pdb1:
Wow . Look at all those Ads . Haven't seen them for years .

They don't bother me in the forums at all and I use a different browser and set up for the game. And since I've not bought credits with $ in almost 3 years I figure its the least I can do to support WGT's revenue.
Look at all your CC members available on your friends list! If playing with CC members is sooo important to you (the real topic of this thread!), why aren't you inviting them to play you W?

andyson
6,415 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 6:34 AM

PaulTon:
I don't know how Andy was doing his way

Really PT? Open a second forum window by right clicking on the bookmark and selecting Open in a New Window. Resize that window to only show the friends list and move the new window to the far left. Then resize this window to make it a bit narrower and show the new window. Its easier to do than describe....;o)
PaulTon
10,731 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 9:14 AM
D'oh, of course, silly me!
HenryKawa
1,691 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 10:36 AM
Henry Kawa (commonly known as the number 1 best player of all time, who has ever lived), has reached another milestone > 4000 friends.
I have decided not to ever return to the FORUMS, however, my friends were waiting for this day to come, when I will reach number 4000, so I only returned, this time, out of courtesy to my friends. I will not make this announcement on any of the other threads, so please let others know.
Good bye (likely forever).
"The One and Only", HENRY KAWA, signing off!
PaulTon
10,731 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 3:19 PM
Go away Henry you tedious non-entity.
opyeuclid
6,686 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 3:42 PM

HenryKawa:
I have decided not to ever return to the FORUMS, however, my friends were waiting for this day to come, when I will reach number 4000, so I only returned, this time, out of courtesy to my friends. I will not make this announcement on any of the other threads,

Should this have not been posted in another thread called " who has the most friends " where it belongs ,
OPY
pdb1
25,122 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 4:20 PM

andyson:
Look at all your CC members available on your friends list! If playing with CC members is sooo important to you (the real topic of this thread!), why aren't you inviting them to play you W?

Not that it is any of your business andyson . But since you asked . 2 of those three are my most frequently played members . But i know you know already that what i speak about the invites being so hard to achieve amongst the ones that you want to be available and be available for at the exact right times is the truth throughout WGT . I miss at least 5 times more than I am able to accept . In fact andyson . It is a rare moment that i have available to send an invite . Obviously while I am posting something or recording something or creating something or answering something or already playing would not be a good time to send an invite . .But those may be good times for me to accept an invite. .
bypass07
1,360 Posts Fri, May 20 2016 5:02 PM

PaulTon:

Go away Henry you tedious non-entity.

NICE !!
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sat, May 21 2016 11:20 AM

andyson:

PaulTon:
I don't know how Andy was doing his way

Really PT? Open a second forum window by right clicking on the bookmark and selecting Open in a New Window. Resize that window to only show the friends list and move the new window to the far left. Then resize this window to make it a bit narrower and show the new window. Its easier to do than describe....;o)

The resized second window , The split screen . Are very inconvenient and confusing and only work if you are concentrating on an area for a period of time . Bouncing back and forth from image hosts creating , comparing , resizing , copying takes one out of the WGT tab quickly enabling you to use the 2 screens for the tasks that you are doing . Which puts you back to square one .
It is not always possible to even click fast enough to accept a 5 second invite
May I remind E 1 that sending someone a 5 second invite is not long enough for some one to acknowledge , finish typing a sentence , click out of what they were doing , and respond before you cancel the invite . The last 10 invites that have been sent to me were the 5 second variety . Give me a break please .
andyson
6,415 Posts Sat, May 21 2016 11:37 AM

pdb1:
Obviously while I am posting something or recording something or creating something or answering something or already playing would not be a good time to send an invite . .But those may be good times for me to accept an invite. .

This might be another case of "YOU MEAN WHAT YOU SAY NOT WHAT I READ" but here goes anyway.....
I read "Its not a good time for you to send an invite while you are busy doing something else, however even while you are busy doing something else that may be a good time for you to accept an invite." In other words, You can't stop what you are doing to set up and play a game with CC members, but you can stop what you are doing to accept an invite. You don't want to go thru all the rigmarole of setting up a game and then waiting for the CC member(s) to accept or not.

Did I read that right? Or is it "doing my stuff is way too important to waste any time inviting you"?
9,041 Posts Sat, May 21 2016 1:07 PM

bypass07:

PaulTon:

Go away Henry you tedious non-entity.

NICE !!

I thought so too....
Many, many other words I could've used !! ;-)))
Andy

by **Paul** Thu 20 Jul 2023, 3:04 pm

andyson
6,415 Posts Sun, May 22 2016 12:11 PM

pdb1:
The resized second window , The split screen . Are very inconvenient and confusing and only work if you are concentrating on an area for a period of time . Bouncing back and forth from image hosts creating , comparing , resizing , copying takes one out of the WGT tab quickly enabling you to use the 2 screens for the tasks that you are doing . Which puts you back to square one .

Don't touch the resized 2nd window and adapt the size of any other application to keep it visible. It works if you give it time for you to get used to it. I do it all the time myself.
Or ScottHope has another Maxthon method using a pop-up window method that always stays on top of the screen. Watch his video at the bottom of this thread.

pdb1:

It is not always possible to even click fast enough to accept a 5 second invite
May I remind E 1 that sending someone a 5 second invite is not long enough for some one to acknowledge , finish typing a sentence , click out of what they were doing , and respond before you cancel the invite . The last 10 invites that have been sent to me were the 5 second variety . Give me a break please .

No give us a break please....C'mon Really? 5 second invites? Your last 10 have all been 5 second invites? I've never sent a 5 second invite myself nor have I witnessed a host sending a 5 second invite. You're seeing a conspiracy of your CC members sending 5 sec. invites just to p*ss you off! (now there's an idea!)
If you had your game client already open you could accept the invite first then go back and clean up or finish what you were doing. (I think that's the way it would work IIRC but not positive)
pdb1
25,122 Posts Tue, May 24 2016 6:30 AM

andyson:
I read "Its not a good time for you to send an invite while you are busy doing something else, however even while you are busy doing something else that may be a good time for you to accept an invite." In other words, You can't stop what you are doing to set up and play a game with CC members, but you can stop what you are doing to accept an invite. You don't want to go thru all the rigmarole of setting up a game and then waiting for the CC member(s) to accept or not.

Well I know you have limitations on comprehension . Yes it is what i said . only because i have invited 100 more times than anyone you know . So i don't have a problem not taking every minute i have to send invites .
andyson
6,415 Posts Tue, May 24 2016 11:43 AM

pdb1:
Well I know you have limitations on comprehension .

Your posts sure do put it to the test!

pdb1:
Yes it is what i said .

Progress! You're actually saying you're too busy to stop what you're doing and send an invite, but NOT too busy to accept an invite and play. Therefore, friends must invite you, you don't do invites.

pdb1:
only because i have invited 100 more times than anyone you know .
(I'll ignore the exaggeration as I do know YankeeJim who has played 5600+ Alt Shot games compared to your 460+.)

And you justify being done sending invites because you've invited lots in the past. (at least in your own mind)

pdb1:
So i don't have a problem not taking every minute i have to send invites .

Oooh, double negatives are tough.....
Basically, you do have a problem wasting your precious time sending invites to your friends.
Damn, must be real important stuff you do with your time! Posting 9500 times in the forums? Making you said like 2,000 trophies for your CC? Removing, as you've said, over 230 members from your CC to get it down to the tight 26 members you now have. All that work you do searching for new members, posting your ad on their wall and inviting them to join. More wall posts when they do accept. etc. etc..... IIRC you had 33 CC members in January. How's all that important stuff you're doing working out for you?
PaulTon
10,731 Posts Tue, May 24 2016 2:41 PM

andyson:
pdb1:
only because i have invited 100 more times than anyone you know .
(I'll ignore the exaggeration as I do know YankeeJim who has played 5600+ Alt Shot games compared to your 460+.)

Even among all the contradictions and obfuscation in pdb's post that one stuck out to me. What an utterly ridiculous statement to make!
As an aside, I often wonder how much alt shot other people play (but not enough to go looking at profiles).
I just edge ahead of Jim with an impressive/very sad 5837.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Tue, May 24 2016 5:58 PM
okay . I have invited many more times than any one i know . I don't remember mentioning alt shot . By far the fewest number of invites on my list . Also the least played format . but definitely the most enjoyable .
ct690911
7,060 Posts Tue, May 24 2016 6:20 PM

PaulTon:

andyson:
pdb1:
only because i have invited 100 more times than anyone you know .
(I'll ignore the exaggeration as I do know YankeeJim who has played 5600+ Alt Shot games compared to your 460+.)

Even among all the contradictions and obfuscation in pdb's post that one stuck out to me. What an utterly ridiculous statement to make!
As an aside, I often wonder how much alt shot other people play (but not enough to go looking at profiles).
I just edge ahead of Jim with an impressive/very sad 5837.

7095 alt shot games in 4 years...damn. I feel like HK going on about who has collected the most marbles..err.. friends.
3565-3530
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 5:36 AM
For somebody that claims to have 6,000,000,000 alt shot rounds in . Your ignorance never seizes to amaze me andyson .

andyson:
No give us a break please....C'mon Really? 5 second invites? Your last 10 have all been 5 second invites? I've never sent a 5 second invite myself nor have I witnessed a host sending a 5 second invite. You're seeing a conspiracy of your CC members sending 5 sec. invites just to p*ss you off! (now there's an idea!)

andyson:
Your last 10 have all been 5 second invites?

Some may have been 10 or 20 seconds . And likely not any from CC members . Who know better . This is a very frequent and frustrating occurrence for all WGT players .
The hasty inviting host impatiently cannot wait long enough to see if you accept and frantically goes through a number of players not giving them time to accept .
This happens to everyone except " Perfect Andy " .
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 5:45 AM
PaulTon:
Even among all the contradictions and obfuscation in pdb's post that one stuck out to me. What an utterly ridiculous statement to make!
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Not so ridiculous . My invites also amount into the thousands . If you see I edited it to say " more than anyone I know " . Which validates that I can ask others to invite me and make the effort . Not andysons assumptions that i only will take the time to accept rather than invite .
Amongst my 5000 stroke play rounds and 1000 match play and 500 altshot rounds . Way over half of them were played with the " create a game " . Invites by me . Maybe twice that amount were unsuccessful ( actually 3 times that would be more accurate ). So at the very least and I think many more . That comes to over 6000 successful and unsuccessful invites . So now tell me I don't have any experience with invites .
ct690911
7,060 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 6:13 AM

pdb1:

ct690911:
Even among all the contradictions and obfuscation in pdb's post that one stuck out to me. What an utterly ridiculous statement to make!

Not so ridiculous . My invites also amount into the thousands . If you see I edited it to say " more than anyone I know " . Which validates that I can ask others to invite me and make the effort . Not andysons assumptions that i only will take the time to accept rather than invite .
Amongst my 5000 stroke play rounds and 1000 match play and 500 altshot rounds . Way over half of them were played with the " create a game " . Invites by me . Maybe twice that amount were unsuccessful ( actually 3 times that would be more accurate ). So at the very least and I think many more . That comes to over 6000 successful and unsuccessful invites . So now tell me I don't have any experience with invites .

Paul...you are attributing a quote to me that I didn't make...please amend.
ty
ct
ps: aren't you getting a bit tired of this never ending back and forth?...I have my share of critics as well, but generally I can wrap it up in a few posts.
andyson
6,415 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 7:04 AM

pdb1:
For somebody that claims to have 6,000,000,000 alt shot rounds in . Your ignorance never seizes to amaze me andyson .

And you never cease to make us laugh at you.

pdb1:

andyson:
Your last 10 have all been 5 second invites?

Some may have been 10 or 20 seconds . ...This is a very frequent and frustrating occurrence for all WGT players .

Backpedaling? ... There you go again making us laugh! Let's all play "Pick-A-Ridiculous-Number-Out-Of-Thin-Air"
My turn: "Well some may have been 90 or 120 seconds"

pdb1:

The hasty inviting host impatiently cannot wait long enough to see if you accept and frantically goes through a number of players not giving them time to accept .
This happens to everyone...

What's the name of your fantasy world again?

pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 9:48 PM
Lol . For your information . " The 5 second invite " is the title of the same topic that i wrote a long article for my CC about around a year and a half ago . It refers to any amount of time that would not give one enough time to accept .
I always admit when i am wrong andyson . Always . Again you have no clue what you are talking about . All I did was clarify it for your comprehension . No back pedaling going on .
Anyone else reading it completely understands . As I know you do too . It is so ridiculous for you to continue to try and discredit me . Especially on something like this . i mean do you know how stupid you look ?
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 9:57 PM

ct690911:
Paul...you are attributing a quote to me that I didn't make...please amend.

Done . Who can tell anymore .
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 10:03 PM

ct690911:
ps: aren't you getting a bit tired of this never ending back and forth?...I have my share of critics as well, but generally I can wrap it up in a few posts.

More than tired of it . It is sad and pitiful and embarrassing . Never ending , exhausting and ridiculous .
andyson
6,415 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 10:08 PM

pdb1:
For your information . " The 5 second invite " is the title of the same topic that i wrote a long article for my CC about around a year and a half ago . It refers to any amount of time that would not give one enough time to accept .

Remember, we only know what you're writing, not what you're saying!
I'm sure it was a long article too.
Mine woulda been shorter. "Give folks a couple of minutes to accept."
What's stupid is is leaving your available light on while you're off doing something else so you miss invites then blaming the system.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 10:54 PM

andyson:
What's stupid is is leaving your available light on while you're off doing something else so you miss invites then blaming the system.

You just can't resist opening a can of worms . Yes the system that we currently have is faulty . We , me , you the players are faulty . The mix isn't good and anyone that says it works fine is either an andyson or they have never used it .

andyson:
What's stupid is is leaving your available light on while you're off doing something else so you miss invites then blaming the system.

For myself , when I am engaged in other tasks . i would be remiss to place myself unavailable . As I would not want to miss the possibility to accept a rare invite . Yes many of the invites that could be missed are ones that I may never get a chance to play again .
I used to keep friends list at over 700 for fear that i would miss that rare invite from a long lost friend ( WGT friend ) which really amounts to thousands .
But when i started a CC . It became more important to me to keep my friends list under the Magic 255 to enable PM's for all of my members .
Along with the chance that i would forget to change my status back from unavailable . Which happens every time . Thus possibly missing more important invites . There is no chance that i am going to purposely change my status to anything other than available . People do not come online because I am green . But they do invite when they are online because I am green . I try not to miss them . But it happens . I think as I have mentioned there could be some improvement in the way we are notified . Like simply an icon at the top and bottom of the page . Or a pop up notification stating that a member is currently inviting .
pdb1
25,122 Posts Sun, May 29 2016 11:24 PM

andyson:
Mine woulda been shorter. "Give folks a couple of minutes to accept."

Is not shorter than " The 5 second invite " .
reddevil16
273 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 7:08 AM

pdb1:

andyson:
Mine woulda been shorter. "Give folks a couple of minutes to accept."

Is not shorter than " The 5 second invite " .
andyson
6,415 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 8:14 AM

pdb1:

andyson:
What's stupid is is leaving your available light on while you're off doing something else so you miss invites then blaming the system.

You just can't resist opening a can of worms .

Hello? McFly? You opened the can two weeks ago with your original post! Did you forget?

pdb1:
Yes the system that we currently have is faulty .

It works well enough for thousands of us to enjoy multi-player games every day.
In this thread, you've been given a couple of methods on how other players are able to multi-task while their status is available and not miss invites. You've rejected those methods since you can't adapt and change how you work.
You say you wrote a long CC post called "5 second invites" which was all about giving enough time to answer invites. I'll bet that was triggered by you missing invites and contained a lecture from you to your CC members on how they need to change and adapt when inviting you.
The fact is if one misses several invites from the same person you'll get less, if any, invites from that person in the future. It's human nature, the old saying: "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice shame on you.".
You want WGT to spend resources enhancing a system that works for thousands of players but not you. While there are more serious. real problems that affect everyone needing WGT's attention.
You're tilting at windmills again. It's not a big problem. It's not something we want WGT messing with, we don't need invites broken again like in July of last year. Deal with it like the rest of us do.
That sums it up for me. Go ahead, make your long post telling me I'm wrong, call me names, like you always do, whatever. I'm done talking to a brick wall on this thread.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 9:52 AM
I respectfully ( why i do not know ) disagree again andyson . Big surprise

andyson:
In this thread, you've been given a couple of methods on how other players are able to multi-task while their status is available and not miss invites. You've rejected those methods since you can't adapt and change how you work.
.

Actually have tried both suggestions . They were more of a nuisance after a while .

andyson:
You say you wrote a long CC post called "5 second invites" which was all about giving enough time to answer invites. I'll bet that was triggered by you missing invites and contained a lecture from you to your CC members on how they need to change and adapt when inviting you.

It was written long before I myself ever had a problem with the missed invites . But rather in response to a few CC members that had been experiencing this problem and had PMed me about it .

andyson:
You want WGT to spend resources enhancing a system that works for thousands of players but not you. While there are more serious. real problems that affect everyone needing WGT's attention.

There definitely many and much more priorities for WGT to concentrate on in which " valuable resources " would be better utilized . If a programmer or a tech had to do much more than add a few codes to enable 1 more notification . It wouldn't happen anyway . Just like dozens and hundreds of other suggestions that have been submitted over time that would improve all kinds of failed programs here in WGT.
We all know and I know that customer service is not part of what we get here . If it does not generate mega revenue . It will never be on any list . Even revenue producing programs are only introduced half assed . The CLASHES for example . They just opened the flood gates and all hell broke loose . That program is seriously flawed . They will never fix it or touch it . But it will remain as a top revenue producing event .
I only wish the multimedia messaging programs could be repaired and upgraded . Dream only of owners tools working properly . But they would cost mega bucks to repair . and so would all the other glitches and work a rounds we are so accustomed to . Not gonna happen . I'm not fooling myself . I have made other viable suggestions that i know will never even be considered . Like the colored icon for each member . To activate green if that member wanted to receive invites from other CC's . To stay red if that member does not want to receive invites from other CC's . Irregardless of whether that member belongs or does not belong to a CC . Completely their right and choice . Reasonable suggestion . i am sure very low cost and limited admin work to add to a members profile . But it will never happen .
Nothing much in the way of improving anything will be seen here . Look at all the clusters of inactive profiles and CC's that they could do something about . Also allowing CC owners to compile thousands and thousands of stagnant pending members lists . Between all that . no system can run properly without periodic cleaning and clearing . They don't do it . They don't stress to us that we should do it , we don't do it . it's a mess andyson .

andyson:
You're tilting at windmills again. It's not a big problem. It's not something we want WGT messing with, we don't need invites broken again like in July of last year. Deal with it like the rest of us do.

Speak for yourself andyson . We do want WGT to mess with anything they feel like upgrading , improving , updating to this century state of the art . We don't want to just deal with it like you are suggesting . We will likely walk away and let this site disappear into oblivion if we are asked to just deal with too many more things andyson .
i know none of that will happen . I just write this stuff to give you something to do .
Your welcome BTW .

andyson:
It works well enough for thousands of us to enjoy multi-player games every day.

Yes it barely works well enough for us to enjoy multiplayer rounds everyday . I am one who has 50 % of my rounds 3 and out in disconnects . I enjoy the complete rounds . I also enjoy the 4 or 7 or 8 holes I play before disconnection . But it's not right and I'm not going to say " leave well enough alone ".
Will it ever end CT ?
ct690911
7,060 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 10:09 AM
This thread reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys...I've no idea who ultimately won that one either...only that it never seemed to end...lol

andyson
6,415 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 10:27 AM
OK, just one more reply for laughs...
If you're gonna sling a ton of nonsense BS like you did above pdb1, then I expect we're going to see this next!
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 10:57 AM

andyson:
If you're gonna sling a ton of nonsense BS like you did above pdb1

None of it's nonsense andyson . You can believe that .

andyson:
then I expect we're going to see this next!

Yes I remember it well . Except it was here .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fae3RhlIJVo ( Tiger 1997 Phoenix Open TPC Scottsdale )
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 11:09 AM
It is unfortunate that you feel the need to discredit me and make me out to look like a liar and an exaggerator . I have already felt the effects this has had on people . I had one member defriend me recently and message me explaining that it has come to their attention that i would not be one to be associated with .
I was a little taken aback for a minute . But not long . I have met quite a lot of your ignorant , cynical , pessimistic , untrusting and troubled types here . For every 10 of those . I have 100 friends that know me to be true and honest as the day is long . Would defend them and have their back the whole time you try and destroy them .
HenryKawa
1,691 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 12:48 PM

pdb1:

It is unfortunate that you feel the need to discredit me and make me out to look like a liar and an exaggerator . I have already felt the effects this has had on people . I had one member defriend me recently and message me explaining that it has come to their attention that i would not be one to be associated with .
I was a little taken aback for a minute . But not long . I have met quite a lot of your ignorant , cynical , pessimistic , untrusting and troubled types here . For every 10 of those . I have 100 friends that know me to be true and honest as the day is long . Would defend them and have their back the whole time you try and destroy them .

Paul, Henry Kawa will never defriend you. I think highly of you and that will never change. Keep being 'you'. Don't ever change. (I only returned to show my support - good bye from the Forums, once again!)
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 2:19 PM

HenryKawa:
Paul, Henry Kawa will never defriend you. I think highly of you and that will never change. Keep being 'you'. Don't ever change. (I only returned to show my support - good bye from the Forums, once again!)

Well how nice of you Henry . Thank you
ct690911
7,060 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 2:51 PM

pdb1:

HenryKawa:
Paul, Henry Kawa will never defriend you. I think highly of you and that will never change. Keep being 'you'. Don't ever change. (I only returned to show my support - good bye from the Forums, once again!)

Well how nice of you Henry . Thank you

I have to agree..that was nice of Henry. The fact he has amassed over 4000 "friends" means he doesn't believe in deleting...so you are probably safe.
ps. I'm surprised there are 4000 active players on this site (or at least active enough to accept a friend request). WGT's assertion about "millions" is a bunch of marketing hooey ...I'm sure many of us (incl TopGolf?) are curious as to the number who regularly play.
9,041 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 4:32 PM
^^^ Colin...STOP with the ps's every fookin post..
If you have an addendum then EDIT is the thing......??
Starting to annoy me as much as pdb1 sounds oblivious to reason !!
ps. ;-) Come back HK !! At least you were just taking the p.iss..
not sounding p*issed like pdb1 !!
( actually, might be too much weed over the decades ? Something is killing those brain cells rapidly !! )
Andy
ct690911
7,060 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 5:16 PM
Andy..."p.s." is the appropriate way to scribe an afterthought. I could edit, but then it would look incoherent and rambling..
You are among the rarest of critics to highlight a post script as a pet peeve..It may be a badge of honor in some arenas..but, I give you so much better material to work with..
Can't speak to the weed issue, other than our Prime Minister is determined to legalize it.
ps: Why have you been so quiet in the forums?
ct
rollone
765 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 5:31 PM

ct690911:

This thread reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys...I've no idea who ultimately won that one either...only that it never seemed to end...lol

it hasn't ended man,still ongoing
9,041 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 5:50 PM

ct690911:
Andy..."p.s." is the appropriate way to scribe an afterthought. I could edit, but then it would look incoherent and rambling..

Yaaa, BUT...
it is NOT an afterthought ( you can't have sooo many ffs :-D )
You and I know what we want to say, before typing !?!
it, is..already in your head ? ( as it is mine )
The "ps" s>hit is superfluous.
What you don't want to happen is coming across 'like a broken record'
ATM...I could close my eyes..someone reads me a post..
AND I could recognize yours in a second !! ( same ole same ole )
:-(

ct690911:
Can't speak to the weed issue, other than our Prime Minister is determined to legalize it.

Vote for him then......advocate of legalisation for 'pot' and class As too, to stop a 'never ending story'...........( subject for another day perhaps ;-) )

ct690911:
ps: Why have you been so quiet in the forums?

Bored sh*tless with same ole, same ole...
Read...shake head...hit beach ! ( it used to be fun )
Andy

by **Paul** Thu 20 Jul 2023, 3:21 pm

ct690911
7,060 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 6:11 PM
@Andy... Because I consider you a friend and value your sanity(?), I will discard with the post scripts. I may receive a letter from the Royal family, but for you I will do it.
The fact you could recognize my posts should not be a challenge at this point. I could do the same with yours. I'm actually surprised you swung at such a slow floater down the middle..usually you don't waste time on the obvious, or the frivolous.
At any rate, I am pleased you took the time to post...odd topic to comment on, but your thoughts are, as always, both colorful and welcomed.
ct
9,041 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 6:25 PM
^^ the passive aggressive stance irks me a tad too...
'Take a leaf out of my book'..
Got summat to say then spit it out...Come Hell o High Water !!
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 6:56 PM
Lol . BTW . Fck you all . I still choose to comment on WGT issues . Mostly because that is where we are . And it is the only place any one would care about WGT . Which is not going to be on your minds . At the same time as mine . We get that . And not sure but likely there are some brain cell issues .

alcaucin:
not sounding p*issed like pdb1 !!

Have never been pissed or mad . Maybe barely irritated .

alcaucin:
Bored sh*tless with same ole, same ole...

true that .
ct690911
7,060 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 7:14 PM

alcaucin:

^^ the passive aggressive stance irks me a tad too...
'Take a leaf out of my book'..
Got summat to say then spit it out...Come Hell o High Water !!

Passive aggressive?...Andrew, one pet peeve at a time.
Besides, I said exactly what I wanted to say. Not every post has to be rife with salt to be understood.
9,041 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 8:32 PM

ct690911:
Andrew, one pet peeve at a time.

Gotta learn to multi-task c_ _t ?
Only my Mother and Lover call me that...
One not spoke to in 15 years and the other I sleep with.............
In either instance, I don't think you qualify.
ps.....The ps comment was a well intended critique..my take on your utterances..
( albeit not vocal obviously )
Though if you want to take umbrage...we can butt heads forever and a day, like Andy & Paul..
Andy ( willing participant )
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 10:35 PM
Wow . Even the pages became a dark grey . I'm gonna go get some SUN . Later . Have fun with your new friends Colin .

Jan 6 2020 . This thread is a classic . I have fond memories of these tumultuous times . I fear my response to ander101 thread Sending game invites will not see the light of day . Maybe even get this one deleted . Would truly be a shame . No harm no foul . Good times .
Peace .
Paul
YancyCan
3,024 Posts Mon, May 30 2016 11:15 PM
ct690911
7,060 Posts Tue, May 31 2016 12:24 AM

pdb1:

Wow . Even the pages became a dark grey. I'm gonna go get some SUN. Later. Have fun with your new friends, Colin.

I generally wrap up (read discard) petty nonsense within a couple of posts. This is certainly no exception.
Andy, In your lifetime, you may experience many lovers. You will have but one mother.
ct
DodgyPutter
4,684 Posts Tue, May 31 2016 3:09 AM

ct690911:
This thread reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys...I've no idea who ultimately won that one either...only that it never seemed to end...lol

Ah; the famous potato snack naming case, life wouldn't have been the same if the Hatfields had won.
PaulTon
10,731 Posts Tue, May 31 2016 5:40 AM

ct690911:
Andy, In your lifetime, you may experience many lovers. You will have but one mother.

While that is true, it is meaningless.
There are plenty of mothers that are total c*nts and should never have bred.
I'm not suggesting Andy's was.
Nor my own, she was a lovely person.

bubbsboy
6,879 Posts Tue, May 31 2016 6:19 AM
There`s some mothers out there who have many lovers.....
The child lies pretending to be asleep each night wondering who "new daddy" is and feeling oh so confused.
Its a crying shame, and something that twists my insides into knotts.
My mother wasn`t one of those.........but i was at times one of those new daddies!!
Confession over.
ct690911
7,060 Posts Tue, May 31 2016 9:01 AM

PaulTon:

ct690911:
Andy, In your lifetime, you may experience many lovers. You will have but one mother.

While that is true, it is meaningless.
There are plenty of mothers that are total c*nts and should never have bred.
I'm not suggesting Andy's was.
Nor my own, she was a lovely person.

The truth is never "meaningless". It's what a person does with it that determines its' value.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Mon, Jan 4 2021 8:58 AM
What a group of astute individuals . NOT .
Man am I out of shape . Reading this old thread exhausted me .If you don't know . This was a typical expectation from anything I posted . For quite sometime . I never let it bother me . But I agree . It was such a waste .
This is just one of many threads that highlighted various concerns myself and others . Have had with the old invite system .
There are actually other threads where I point out other controversies and problems . Directly related to the invite system .
Arguments amongst some prominent CC's . Regarding whether or not someone had or had not invited at the proper time as previously agreed . Or the invitee had not responded . When they had previously agreed they would .
And several other similar scenarios . That have lead to members quitting CC's . Taking their ball and going home .
Then there was " The Invisible Invite Debacle " in 2015 . Which affected not just the general WGT public . But at the time there were a number of Challonge.com weekend tournaments going . That were completely disrupted . And eventually and quickly led to the final cancellation of said events .
The problem was that invites were being sent but not seen . With formats relying completely on the invite system . Left these events dead in the water .
That glitch was eventually resolved . But not before it had discouraged the potential weekend tournament players enough to move on from those events .
So the public and personal issues that were real . With the invite system did and do exist .
Now PCEA is experiencing the frustration of the converting flash players . Who depend on a more accurate view of the actual players that are actually available for matches .
This feature will be very important in the immediate success of this transition .
I seriously hope WGT will take measures to refine and improve the invite feature .

This post was moderated and approved on Mon, Jan 4 2021 8:58 AM:
HenryKawa
1,691 Posts Mon, Jan 25 2021 12:21 PM

pdb1:

HenryKawa:
Paul, Henry Kawa will never defriend you. I think highly of you and that will never change. Keep being 'you'. Don't ever change. (I only returned to show my support - good bye from the Forums, once again!)

Well how nice of you Henry . Thank you

Your welcome!
pdb1
25,122 Posts Tue, Jan 26 2021 9:22 AM
Lol . Very funny Henry . There isn't any shortage of friends . Never was . You don't need to repost a post from some other thread and some other time .
Since this game is basically unplayable in multiplayer . PCEA becoming bad to worse in a matter of a couple of months .
Not only is the Forums a waste of time . The game has become too limiting to enjoy . Instead of stubbornly refusing PCEA . I have tried to fully embrace it . That is not working out so well .
So what is the point anymore ? The Forums mean nothing . There is no joy in the game .
I suppose , like all old habits . They die hard .
HenryKawa
1,691 Posts Tue, Jan 26 2021 8:13 PM
I thought you would get a kick out of it. It not a re-post. I just responded FINALLY, to your post in this same thread but it was a long time ago which I failed to notice so failed to respond to back then. I am sorry you are not enjoying WGT any more. Its too bad. I liked the old style better but the way I look at it, there is nothing we can do about it so I am just making the best out of a bad situation. I have also taken up on a cell phone golf game called Golf King. Its kind of hoaky, but better than nothing.
We had a good run. It was fun while it lasted. You were one of my heros. I do miss it. I especially miss the forums. I loved having fun with people. It was fun winding people up. In the early days, you were not a fan of Henry's either and had posted some nasty messages to me and about me, but once you figured me out, you were one of my best friends. I appreciate that Paul. I will never forget you and you will always be my friend.
gonfission
2,116 Posts Wed, Jan 27 2021 5:55 AM

pdb1:
Not only is the Forums a waste of time .

pdb1:
The Forums mean nothing

Yet, here you are mewling about...
pdb1
25,122 Posts Wed, Jan 27 2021 8:37 AM

gonfission:

pdb1:
Not only is the Forums a waste of time .

pdb1:
The Forums mean nothing

Yet, here you are mewling about...

pdb1:

like all old habits . They die hard .

kind of like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it Joe?
HenryKawa
1,691 Posts Wed, Jan 27 2021 12:10 PM
Now now boys. Lets all be friends. You two are two of my best friends, so I don't want to see anything erupt between you guys. You are both very nice people. I spoke with Joe on the phone for a long time and got to know the real Joe - A most interesting fellow with a lot of life experiences (probably the most of anyone I know). And Paul, I have never talked to you on the phone, but I promise once Covid is over, we will stop in for a beer in our travels.
pdb1
25,122 Posts Wed, Jan 27 2021 1:20 PM

HenryKawa:
It not a re-post. I just responded FINALLY, to your post in this same thread but it was a long time ago which I failed to notice so failed to respond to back then.

Okay . All good Henry . Do not interpret my defensiveness as offensiveness .
No worries