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by **Paul** Tue 27 Jan 2015, 12:41 pm

tujay

766 Posts
01-25-2015 5:22 PM

From: World Golf Tour [mailto@worldgolftour.com]
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2015 8:51 AM
To: tujay@bigpond.com
Subject: pdb1 posted a comment titled: i even

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pdb1 sent you the following message:
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Subject:i even

set the first round to the course you suggested and you fkn disappear ?
Mate,

Firstly I thought I was in for a good morning and after a 20 min hanging about we finally got started in the comp. Then I played Buddha on Whistler and he quit on me.

I then went back to the forum and waited for 30 mins. We all hung around for another 15 mins until you decided that the comp would commence in another 37 mins. At this stage my wife asked me to do some jobs. I explained this on the chat and you along with others said "OK see ya." You then said that "One day we'll get the comp right!"

I then logged out with an understanding everyone knew I was leaving.

Now I get an email with a real "BOSS" to subordinate tone.

I have also read YOUR endless "Nazi" approach in the club on forums...."Sign in, send me an email, play comps" etc. The other day in the chat room a member swore at you and left.

You need to take a more casual and consultative approach to the club.

I was really looking forward to joining a warm and welcoming club but all I get is abuse and orders.

WTF? you asked in your previous email..... well that's it. I am out of here and good luck to others!!

There are some great guys in this club but my advice to them is.... there are some great clubs about with fantastic owners, offering great support and lots of variety.
pdb1

1,551 Posts
01-25-2015 7:28 PM

Tujay : I am very sorry you got that sense from what was only another miscommunication . If you could see the certain situations ( and they are all a little different ) you would see that I try a nd stay cailm and always try to listen tio every angle ( that is if I ever get a chance to talk to them ) There are currently 3 individuals (of which you were one of ) that had been entering the tournaments and then by some unfortunate instance by which no fault of your own I am sure of .Have left each tournament with out ever speaking a word to me . Not before , not during , and not after they have exited , and maybe never .
When I said you were one of those . Is because finally today one hour and a half after the tournament had started and to my knowledge had completely disappeared from contact until then .You did show up . And for the first time I was able to get your attention and we had a couple of exchanges back and forth that was to me a gr8 turning point in the tourneys . Many of the problems occuring could have been fixed had I been talked to and given a chance to either reassign the match up or something fair to the event .
Not knowing if or if not a match has been able to be played has occured in every tournament . I have not just sat there and let people not give me the information but usually politely message them for an explanation .
In one of todays situations with you when you were gone so long . It turned out that you had gone off and played with one of the other entrants . Not even your opponent . Assuming that the pregame sample bracket had the tournament match ups .
I have tried to tell , write , inform everyone of the procedures in a bracket tourney .
The list you saw still had 4 entrants on it that never showed up . I waited the extra 20 minutes . First asking E 1 if it was OK to wait I thought E 1 said yes .
I then go and remove the no shows , resort the match ups so a master doesn't play a legend and start the tournament . All of that only takes 1 minute .
I then go to the chat that where E 1 is looking at the real bracxet that had changed right before their eyes .
And say the " tourney has begun ."
Before I was able to then ask each match up to speak to one and other and decide who sets and invites .
I notice a new person there . Someone that wasnt even on the original no show list .
Inquiring if it was too late and may he stil enter ?
I said of course and welcome .
I then had to return to the admin . End the tournament , resort the match ups , and restart the tournament .
I go back to the chat . Ask E 1 if they are all ready ? I thought E 1 said yes . I thought the tournament would begin .
But NO . WHY ? Because two of the enrants were off playing their own match . A master and a Legend . (which at that point nobody knew that we just knew they were gone)
That left 4 more enrants that could not play in their matchups . I could not go back and restart because those two were gone and would not be able to play their true match ups (.unless they showed back up right away or let us know they were off playing in the wrong match up.)
So the two match ups remaining (4 guys ) went ahead and played .
The tournament was over at that point even before the two match ups played .
Because out of the 8 guys remaining( 4 with match ups & 4 without) . They were so ticked off at me ( unjustly ) that they couldn't stop and make a match with each other , Which I had typed into the chat several times . They all left very disappointed .
I played my match with MG , Chris played his match with Buffaloforest .
A couple of you showed back up .
That was when Tujay and I were able to chat for the first time . I thought that was cool .
Of course it was neither the place and time to inform the gang of the reason the tournament was as it was . And I did not .((( Especially in a chat room where one has to basically wait for the other person to respond. Which never happens. Because he was too busy typing to see anything anyone typed to him . By the time he looks up that screen had filled with chat and is gone .)))
I offered to play another bracket after Chris and I played our final match .
Some agreed and some declined . Chris and I played . He won soundly .
To no surprize to us . Really it was fine . E 1 had gone about their ways .
That my friends was the short version . There was some other occurances nothing negative but not neccessary to include in the descrription .
I am certainly not the nazi that tujay described . lol
But as I had thought we were developing adult friendships where in the thick of things one may say something uncomfortable to the other expecting them to be able to handle it . I have encountered many with very short fuses and tempers witnessing some spontanious combustions . lol. Usually settling and eventually straightening out
That being said . I today as frustrated as I was and you could not imagine the things that were going through my head when That little feeling of being ignored and abandoned feeling was gnawing at the back of my head .
B ecause who knew or would ever think that the two guys that were missing from the bracket that I had not heard anything from . That were not matched up . And would not have been if avoidable master and legend . And also at the same time that I was unaware they were also unaware that they were missing without our knowledge playing in the wrong match up .,
Well during that moment as i was trying to search for the answers which in this case included and always does messaging and trying to politely request them to show back up or something .(several of you have been the recipients of these confusing and crazy messages . )
This time I went to far though .
I want to apologize right now to tujay for leaving him a desparate message with the anachronym WTF & fkn . I usually never let go quite that badly but I did this time .
And look what it has done . I hope you accept my apology tujay . We can maturly move on .
pdb1

1,551 Posts
01-25-2015 8:04 PM

You guys all know I will continue to try make this work . Yes I have been filling the other forum with anything I can think of to relay to interested parties that want to try and help to make these tournaments work .In hopes of bridging this communication travesty .
I have learned a great deal from my friends over at the FLASH MOB . Which is not without it's own hiccups .
As I am also learning more here each week .
Nothing that is or was occurring is written in stone and I would gladly accept any input or assistance . As I have said before .
I just do my very best to make every situation equal and fair to all parties involved . To move through the event with successful completion . That is my main goal . That right there is not very easy .
Once that happens I am more than happy to create the custom trophy for each whatever . And if there isn't a place for that . I will make one up .
pdb1

1,551 Posts
01-25-2015 9:43 PM

Tujay has left the club the club . I made sure he got a copy of the above . Personally I think it is unfortunate .
I did extend an open invitation to him if he had a change of heart .

I think I will leave this post up for a while but i really think it is a waste of time and space
Those are two of the sides of that issue .
JimQ916

34 Posts
01-27-2015 11:10 AM

Paul...you do a hell of a job managing this club and invest a lot of time making things better. It took me a few reads of the rules of the match / stroke play torns but now have a grip on it. Thanks for diong what you do....Jim
Screw Tujay....people like him not only pisses you off but also the rest of the club who are sane and polite to you...just wish him the best and let him go to another club to irritate them!!!!!!
pdb1

1,551 Posts
01-27-2015 11:36 AM

" YES " Thank you again for that Jim . You know I have all the patience in the world but all along I have been thinking the same thing .
You guys are free to express your feelings about anything or anyone here or in the forum . I encourage that or any feedback at all .
Being the owner , what I have to do is relay the information in as fair a manner as I can For each situation . If you have noticed 95 % of the time I leave the names of the people out of the scenario .
That being said I also have a little touch of sarcasm or parody that you guys can pick up in a subject I write about .
You don't know how badly like to expletive up one side and down the other expletives expletive and right up his expletive expletive . PHUCKING SIDEWAYS !!!!!